Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins

Fear lives only in the past or future. Presence dissolves it. And there's a 2,000-year-old word for the muscle that does it: abhaya.

Trauma therapist Richie Landward traces fear back to the origin of creation itself — and walks through the 4-step "abhaya" process that transforms fear from enemy into evolutionary partner.

In this 10-minute conversation, Richie shares:

• Why fear and chaos exist to drive evolution, not to be defeated

• The 4 steps of abhaya: acknowledge, be present, fear breath, cultivate love

• PTSD's diagnostic core: avoidance and escape — and how to interrupt it

• "You can't truly love until you've been afraid"

• Growing up in Holiday, Utah with a sequencing disorder — and a dad who was dean at U of U

• Why the parasympathetic system is the secret to staying with fear long enough to learn

Four Fs Podcast: 10-MinuteWins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth conversations with founders,veterans, executives, and world-class experts you won't hear on every othershow — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,and YouTube.

It's already cheaper to train an AI than to hire an analyst. So what does that mean for graduates, for universities, and for the labor side of the economy itself?

Johns Hopkins SAIS professor Gordon Bodnar walks through the AI/labor/GDP math: why companies are pulling back on hiring even as they pour billions into AI, what that means for the next decade of mature talent, and why the textbook GDP equation might be due for a rewrite.

In this 10-minute conversation, Gordon shares:

• Why AI is already winning the analyst, accounting, and entry-level corporate race

• The corporate paradox: invest in AI now or starve your future leadership pipeline

• Why GDP came in soft this year — and the hidden role of uncertainty

• How macro production functions break down: technology, capital, and labor (A, K, L)

• What it would mean if AI agents had to be counted as labor.

Four Fs Podcast: 10-MinuteWins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class expertsyou won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,and YouTube.

One predator. 400 kids. $6,000 to closea case. And a cybersecurity professional whose biggest fear is that even hisown kids could fall for it.

Lee Anderson — Innocent Lives Foundation volunteer and former Federal Reservecybersecurity specialist — walks through the practical, non-punitive approachhe's built for protecting his own kids online.

In this 10-minute conversation, Lee shares:

• The Innocent Lives Foundation math: 1 predator → up to 400 kids, ~$6K percase
• The donor match: gifts up to $200K matched this year
• Why his approach is education-based, not punishment-based
• "Kids act out because their body is telling them something"
• The screen/device agreement: working WITH kids on rules they help write
• "Curious and Secure" — his core philosophy for tech-savvy parenting

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depthconversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts youwon't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, andpersonal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,and YouTube.

December 2019: he left Simon Sinek's team. February 2020: last in-person gig. March 2020: the speaker industry vanished overnight.

David Mead — co-author of "Find Your Why" — walks through the 2-3 years that followed: a half-built home in Alpine, Utah, a surprise home valuation from real-estate friends at AT&T, and a faith that what was supposed to come would.

In this 10-minute conversation, David shares:

• Why he left Simon Sinek's organization to go solo as a speaker

• COVID hitting the speaker industry mid-Alpine UT homebuild

• The lunch with AT&T real-estate friends that re-priced the house

• Selling, downsizing, and lifting the mortgage weight

• Simon Sinek's 2.5-year consulting offer that arrived right after

• Why "Find Your Why" became a book after 6 years of workshops

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

Rule one: don't be an asshole. Rule two: when in doubt, refer back to rule one.David Porter — Army Ranger turned ServiceNow senior executive — unpacks why "algorithmic" thinking (do A, then B, then C) breaks down the moment you step into the real world, and why the 52 jobs he held before the Army taught him more than business school ever could.In this 10-minute conversation, David shares:• Why school trains you for chess boards and life happens on a different field• Heuristics = street smarts: how the school of hard knocks teaches the golden rule• Leaving a young family at 25 to climb on a bus to Fort Benning• The night he stared at the barbed-wire fence and thought about going AWOL• Becoming the honor graduate of his combat school after "playing the game"• Why he was more worried about jumping out of a plane than the people doing the jumping—Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

Your career is not a ladder. It's a jungle gym.

Himani Naresh — former VP at a global media company, ex-Microsoft engineer turned MBA turned M&A leader turned nonprofit operator — joins The Four Fs Podcast to make the case that the most fulfilling careers don't follow a straight line.

In this 10-minute conversation, Himani shares:

• Why your path will be a series of strategic and tactical left and right turns

• How "Career 1.0" gave way to "Career 1.5," and what "Career 2.0" looks like in her late 40s

• The reinvention everyone is going through right now with AI

• Why people leave managers, not jobs — and how to find one who has your back

• The manager who promoted her after a 6-month maternity leave

• Knowing how YOU like to be managed before you pick your next role

• Her summer between MBA years working with Endeavor in Johannesburg and Sony in Tokyo

• Climbing Mount Fuji at night with her now-husband

Whether you're stuck on the ladder or eyeing a leap to something different, this episode is a reminder that open doors and open hearts beat rigid plans.

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

David Mead is a leadership expert and co-author of Find Your Why with Simon Sinek — and when COVID hit, he lost nearly everything he had built after leaving Simon's team.

No speaking gigs. No book deal. A brand new house in Alpine he wasn't sure he could afford. And a speakers bureau agent telling him straight: "You are not gonna get a job."

In this clip from the Four Fs Podcast, David opens up about what it actually felt like to go 3 years with almost nothing coming in — and how faith, patience, and staying open to what was coming eventually turned the chaos into the biggest opportunity of his career.

This is a 10-minute highlight from our full conversation. To hear the complete episode, search "Four Fs Podcast" on Spotify or visit fourfspodcast.com.

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from

in-depth conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and

world-class experts you won't hear on every other show — on

leadership, entrepreneurship, failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify,

Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

Chapters:

0:00 — Intro: David Mead after leaving Simon Sinek's team

0:30 — When COVID hit and everything stopped

2:00 — Building a home in Alpine and wondering if it was a mistake

3:30 — 3 years in with nothing picking up

5:00 — The house number that changed everything

7:00 — Selling the house, paying off debt, and feeling free

8:30 — The 2.5-year contract that showed up at just the right time

9:30 — "God knows what I need when I need it"

Dr. Gordon Bodnar is a Professor of International Finance at Johns Hopkins

University and one of the clearest thinkers on what's actually happening in the global economy — beyond the headlines.

In this short clip from the Four Fs Podcast, Dr. Bodnar breaks down the real story behind AI investment hype, what tariffs are actually doing to

markets and consumer prices, the EV slowdown, and why most leaders are

ignoring the macroeconomic forces that will define the next decade.

This is a 10-minute highlight from our full conversation. To hear the

complete episode, search "Four Fs Podcast" on Spotify or visit fourfspodcast.com.

If you're enjoying these daily clips, follow Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth

conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts

you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship,

failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple

Podcasts, and YouTube.

Chapters:

0:00 — Intro: Who is Dr. Gordon Bodnar

0:30 — AI investment hype vs. what the data actually shows

2:30 — What tariffs are really doing to prices and markets

5:00 — The EV slowdown explained

7:30 — Why business uncertainty is freezing investment

10:00 — What leaders should actually be paying attention to

12:30 — Where to find the full episode

The Cybersecurity Card Game That Teaches You to Think Like a Hacker

Lee Anderson is a cybersecurity expert and Federal Reserve red-teamer who

has spent over 14 years using psychology, deception, and education to

fight scams, protect families, and expose how easy it is to hack a human

— not just a system.

In this short clip from the Four Fs Podcast, Lee breaks down Hack Attack

Defense, his cybersecurity card game built to teach people how to think

like a hacker — without the fear or shame that usually comes with

security education. If you've ever wondered how social engineering

actually works, this is where it starts.

This is a 10-minute highlight from our full conversation. To hear the

complete episode, search "Four Fs Podcast" on Spotify or visit

fourfspodcast.com.

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth

conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts

you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship,

failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple

Podcasts, and YouTube.

Chapters:

0:00 — Intro: Who is Lee Anderson

0:30 — What is Hack Attack Defense and why he built it

2:30 — How the card game teaches you to think like a hacker

4:30 — The psychology behind why people fall for social engineering

7:00 — Why humans — not firewalls — are the real security frontline

9:30 — How to protect yourself starting today

11:00 — Where to find the full episode

From Microsoft executive to mentor of founders, Rich Kaplan breaks down leadership under fire, influence without authority, and how to navigate chaos without losing your values.

Rich Kaplan is a former Executive Vice President at Microsoft who led teams

through some of the company's most transformative periods — and then had a

near-death experience that completely changed how he thinks about leadership,

people, and what actually matters.

In this short clip from the Four Fs Podcast, Rich breaks down what it

actually looks like to lead through chaos, how he built influence at the

highest levels of Microsoft, and why the best leaders prioritize people

over performance metrics.

This is a 10-minute highlight from our full conversation. To hear the

complete episode, search "Four Fs Podcast" on Spotify or visit

fourfspodcast.com.

If you're enjoying these daily clips, follow Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute

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Four Fs Podcast: 10-Minute Wins delivers a daily short clip from in-depth

conversations with founders, veterans, executives, and world-class experts

you won't hear on every other show — on leadership, entrepreneurship,

failure, and personal reinvention.

Full episodes available on the Four Fs Podcast feed on Spotify, Apple

Podcasts, and YouTube.

Chapters:

0:00 — Intro: Rich Kaplan's Microsoft legacy

0:30 — What leading through chaos actually looks like

2:30 — Building influence at the EVP level

4:30 — Lessons from navigating high-stakes moments at Microsoft

7:00 — Why people matter more than performance metrics

9:00 — How a near-death experience changed everything

10:30 — Where to find the full episode