As a footballer, his record speaks for itself. 

But, his career as player-turned-manager is a knot of competing narratives. A Romford-boy-done-good, a manager dealt a string of poor cards, or a player propelled by Premier League plutocracy.

As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. 

My guest today is Frank Lampard.

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