Frank Mecca retires this month after serving as the Executive Director of the County Welfare Directors Association of California for nearly 30 years.

A prominent advocate for poor and disadvantaged Californians, Mecca is a champion of direct intervention: "The number one way to help kids in poverty is to give their parents the resources to get them out of poverty."

Frank joined Capitol Weekly's John Howard and Tim Foster by phone to talk about his career at CDWA, the difficulties and the successes, and what's changed in the three decades since he took the helm.

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