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What does a wild TRAX ride, a woman lost at sea, and a little compassion for strangers have in common? Just another day on the Frankie & Jess Podcast!

We’re kicking things off with a reminder we could all use: “The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem.”

Jess shares more from her adventure taking TRAX to the University of Utah football game for Parents Weekend. From questionable footwear and hilarious overheard conversations to a train full of colorful characters after the game, it was an experience she won’t soon forget!

But what started as a funny ride home turned into something much more meaningful. We talk about homelessness, compassion, and how easy it is to judge someone’s circumstances without knowing their story. Sometimes the smallest moments with complete strangers leave the biggest impressions.

Then Frankie shares an unbelievable story from the waters off Greece, where a woman reportedly survived more than 20 hours at sea after going overboard from a cruise ship! It brings back memories of a remarkable interview we did years ago with a man who survived a similar ordeal, including a rescue that still gives us chills.

And speaking of cruises… have you seen those videos of passengers desperately running toward cruise ships that are already pulling away from the dock? We get into the nightmare of missing your ship, cruise excursion tips, and what happens when your vacation sails away without you!

It’s a little laughter, a little perspective, some unbelievable survival stories, and the usual Frankie & Jess tangents!

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Our longtime friend and #1 New York Times bestselling author Richard Paul Evans is back on the Frankie & Jess Podcast! And whenever Richard stops by, you know we’re in for some incredible stories, plenty of laughs, and a little inspiration along the way.

Richard joins us to talk about his powerful new novel, Mercy’s Child, inspired by the remarkable true story of Etta Wheeler, a woman whose courage and compassion helped change the way America protects abused and neglected children.

Set in 1874 New York City, the story follows an ordinary woman who finds herself confronting extraordinary circumstances after discovering a young girl living in unimaginable conditions. It’s a story about standing up for what’s right, finding your purpose, and how one person’s actions can change countless lives.

Richard takes us behind the scenes of writing the book, including how artificial intelligence helped him research the Gilded Age, why he eliminated seven entire chapters, and what decades of working with brilliant editors have taught him about becoming a better writer.

But that’s just part of the conversation!

We also catch up on Richard’s magical 200-acre ranch near Zion National Park, where Frankie and Tammy recently attended a beautiful wedding. Richard shares some unbelievable stories involving wildfires, flooding, a runaway wheel, a destructive bear, and a few mischievous alpacas!

Plus, Richard opens up about living with Tourette syndrome, including the unexpected impulses he’s experienced around some pretty famous people. Frankie also shares a personal connection involving Tammy’s Parkinson’s and how stress can affect neurological symptoms.

From hilarious ranch adventures to powerful life lessons, this is one of those conversations that reminds us why we’ve loved having Richard as a friend for nearly 30 years.

ABOUT RICHARD PAUL EVANS

Richard Paul Evans is the internationally bestselling author of The Christmas Box, the Michael Vey series, and more than 40 novels. His books have sold more than 35 million copies worldwide and have been translated into more than 24 languages.

He’s also the founder of The Christmas Box International, a nonprofit dedicated to helping abused, neglected, and homeless children and young adults.

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Mercy’s Child — Available now!

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Official website: https://richardpaulevans.com/

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Frankie shares stories from his family’s adventure in Greece, including an unexpected stop in Boston, unpredictable weather, hundreds of cats roaming the streets, and why they love experiencing a destination like the locals. Plus, the big question: Greece or Italy? Which one wins?

Meanwhile, Jess has been BUSY! From Parents Weekend at the University of Utah with Coop to girls’ getaways, paragliding adventures (not hers!), and finding that sweet spot between being social and staying home.

We also get into some deeper conversations about getting older, setting boundaries, recognizing old stress patterns, and learning that saying NO is sometimes the greatest form of self-respect. Because here’s a reminder we could all use: Other people’s disappointment isn’t yours to manage.

Plus, Axel gets an unforgettable surprise from Tusky at a Utah Mammoth game, Jess revisits the classic movie 9 to 5, and we’ve got plenty of Hollywood Sleaze, laughs, and the usual Frankie & Jess tangents along the way!

It’s a little travel, a little family, a little self-reflection, and a whole lot of catching up!

EDITOR’S NOTE: During the episode, Frankie refers to a horror movie as Back Doors. The actual title is Backrooms. Apparently, Frankie was creating his own horror movie title. Just wanted to clear that up!

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SHOWPOURRI #3

Originally aired March 19 & April 23, 2025.

What REALLY happens behind the scenes of The Amazing Race? And how do you recognize narcissistic behavior in the people around you?

We’re wrapping up Week Two of Showpourri with two fascinating conversations that take us from reality television to the complexities of human behavior.

First up, THE AMAZING RACE!

Our friends and longtime listeners Lori and Scott Thompson join us to share their experience competing on CBS’s hit reality show, The Amazing Race!

What’s it really like racing around the world with cameras following your every move? What happens behind the scenes? And what are contestants actually allowed to reveal?

Lori and Scott give us an inside look at their incredible adventure, sharing stories and experiences you don’t always get to see on television.

Then, we’re talking NARCISSISM!

Our good friend and dream expert Lauri Loewenberg is back! But this time, we’re not interpreting dreams.

We’re diving into narcissism, recognizing troubling behaviors, navigating difficult personalities, and understanding what to watch for in relationships.

We also revisit some of the celebrity behavior making headlines at the time, including discussions involving Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, Blake Lively, and Meghan Markle.

And somehow, we even get into sugar hangovers!

Two very different conversations filled with fascinating stories, insights, and plenty of the unexpected.

It’s the perfect way to wrap up another week of Showpourri!

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Lori & Scott Thompson — The Amazing Race

Lori on Instagram: @lorisfablife

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Find more from Lori through Lori’s Fab Life on YouTube.

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SHOWPOURRI #2

Originally aired February 26 & March 12, 2025.

From designing custom sneakers for Justin Timberlake to overcoming the fear of flying, this Showpourri takes us in a couple of completely different directions. And we love it!

First up, we revisit one of Frankie’s favorite conversations with sneaker and cleat designer Jonathon Millar, the creative mind behind JSM 801 Customs.

Jonathon shares how he turned his passion for sneakers into a business, the challenges along the way, and why men’s mental health is such an important part of his story.

And did we mention he designed custom sneakers for Justin Timberlake? Yep! Justin even wore them during his Salt Lake City concert.

Then, our buddy Brian Morris from Flight Deck joins us for one of those conversations that goes absolutely everywhere!

We get into the fear of flying, panic attacks, sugar addiction, OnlyFans, Naked and Afraid, Shark Tank, Beardaments, and a whole lot more.

Some fascinating insights, some serious moments, and plenty of laughs.

Two great conversations that remind us why we love doing this podcast.

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Two powerful conversations. Two very different perspectives on life.

Originally aired February 6 & February 13, 2025.

What happens when the life you imagined suddenly takes an unexpected turn?

We revisit our heartfelt conversation with author Wendy L. Hooten, who shares the emotional journey of teaching her newborn son had Down syndrome. From the uncertainty and fear of those first moments to discovering a different kind of beautiful, Wendy opens up about motherhood, expectations, acceptance, and the lessons she never saw coming.

We also revisit our fascinating conversation with pilot Jason, who gives us an insider’s perspective on the aviation disasters making headlines in early 2025, including the tragic midair collision near Washington, D.C. Jason had actually flown the same type of aircraft involved in the crash, bringing a unique perspective to a conversation we could have continued for hours.

Two conversations that remind us how quickly life can change and how much we can learn from the people who’ve lived through extraordinary experiences.

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We’re back with Frankie & Jess Showpourri #3!

We’re revisiting two more meaningful conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives. This time, we’re talking about navigating the challenges of blended families, finding support through grief, and why none of us should have to figure everything out alone.

FIRST UP: MINDY KYLE — STEPMOM COACHING

Ever heard of a stepmom coach? Neither had we until we met Mindy Kyle!

Being a stepmom can be an incredibly rewarding experience, but it can also come with complicated emotions, difficult family dynamics and expectations that nobody really prepares you for.

Mindy Kyle helps stepmoms navigate those challenges through coaching, understanding and a much-needed support system.

We have an enlightening conversation about a role that doesn’t always get the recognition or support it deserves.

What happens when you’re trying to find your place in a family that already has its own history, relationships and routines? Where do you turn when you’re struggling, and how do you know you’re not alone in what you’re experiencing?

Whether you’re a stepmom, know a stepmom or may someday find yourself in that role, this conversation offers valuable perspective.

Sometimes just knowing that someone understands what you’re going through can make all the difference.

Want to hear Mindy’s complete interview?

Originally aired December 11, 2024. Find our episode featuring Mindy Kyle and stepmom coaching in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives.

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NEXT UP: JASON & KIRSTEN — LIGHT AFTER GRIEF

Have you ever felt completely alone in your grief?

We sit down with Jason and Kirsten, a therapist and certified grief coach duo who have taken their own experiences with loss and turned them into a mission to help others.

Together, they support people navigating some of life’s most heartbreaking experiences, including the loss of a spouse, parent or child.

We talk about the loneliness that can accompany grief, the importance of connection and what it means to find your way forward when life will never look quite the same.

Grief doesn’t come with an instruction manual. There isn’t a universal timeline, and there’s no single right way to experience it.

But there can be comfort in hearing from people who understand that pain and have dedicated themselves to helping others through it.

Moving forward doesn’t mean forgetting the people we’ve lost. And healing doesn’t mean we stop loving or missing them.

This is a conversation worth hearing and sharing with someone who might need it.

Want to hear Jason and Kirsten’s complete interview?

Originally aired December 18, 2024. Find our episode featuring Jason and Kirsten from Light After Grief in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives.

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Instagram: @lightaftergrief

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We’re back with Frankie & Jess Showpourri #2!

We’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast. And this time, we’re bringing you two discussions about relationships, healing, family and finding your way through some of life’s most challenging chapters.

FIRST UP: TIFFANY DENNY & KIERSTYN FRANKLIN — THE RELATIONSHIP RECOVERY

How do you begin healing after a relationship has left you questioning your own worth?

Our friends Tiffany Denny and Kierstyn Franklin from The Relationship Recovery return to the show for an important conversation about relationship trauma, emotional healing and rediscovering your sense of self.

What makes their approach especially meaningful is that they’ve walked through difficult relationship experiences themselves. They’re also specifically trained in relationship trauma and understand how difficult the healing process can be.

We talk about rebuilding confidence, recognizing your worth and finding the strength to move forward after a painful relationship.

Because healing isn’t just about getting past what happened. It’s about rediscovering who you are and remembering what you deserve.

Whether you’re recovering from a difficult relationship or know someone who is, there’s a lot to take away from this conversation.

Want to hear the complete interview?

Originally aired January 23, 2025. Find our episode with Tiffany Denny and Kierstyn Franklin in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives.

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NEXT UP: SARA COOK — RAISING AGING PARENTS

This is a conversation that almost everyone will face at some point in life.

What happens when the people who spent their lives taking care of us begin needing us to take care of them?

We sit down with Sara Cook, a Certified Occupational Therapy Assistant (COTA), to talk about one of life’s most emotional and sometimes uncomfortable transitions: navigating the changing needs of our aging parents.

How do you start those difficult conversations? How do you balance their independence with concerns about their safety and well-being? And how do you approach the subject with compassion and respect?

It’s a discussion about the realities of aging, the importance of communication and the conversations families often put off until they’re forced to have them.

These conversations aren’t always easy. But having them before a crisis can make a world of difference.

Whether you’re already caring for an aging parent or know that chapter may be ahead, this episode offers valuable perspective.

Want to hear the complete interview?

Originally aired January 29, 2025. Find our episode about aging parents with Sara Cook in the Frankie & Jess Podcast archives.

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Instagram: @raisingagingparents

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We’re kicking off Frankie & Jess Showpourri #1!

We’re revisiting some of our favorite conversations from the Frankie & Jess Podcast. Two different guests, two completely different stories, and some fascinating takeaways!

FIRST UP: FILMMAKER & PRODUCER CELENE BETH OLSEN

Celene Beth Olsen is a Salt Lake City-based filmmaker and producer specializing in true crime documentaries for film, television and podcasts. Her work includes productions for Investigation Discovery, Hulu, Oxygen, CBS, Peacock, Paramount+, Max and ABC.

She also received recognition as a podcast host for Conveyor Media’s The Chosen Ones, which provided real-time coverage of the Lori Vallow Daybell investigation.

We first had Celene on our radio show years ago when she began working on a documentary about Ted Bundy called Killing Theodore.

What started as a filmmaking project turned into something much more complicated as Celene confronted the trauma, exploitation of victims and dehumanization of the people at the center of Bundy’s crimes.

We talk about where the documentary stands, the difficult realities of telling true crime stories, and a question we’ve always wondered:

How do you spend years immersed in some of humanity’s darkest stories without bringing that heaviness home with you?

If you’re a true crime fan, this conversation is for you.

Want to hear Celene’s complete interview? Originally aired September 19, 2024. Find the episode featuring Celene Beth Olsen and Killing Theodore in our podcast archives.

NEXT UP: SANDI HENDRY, FOUNDER OF MINKY COUTURE

What an incredible story of entrepreneurship, determination and passion!

We sit down with Sandi Hendry, the founder and owner of Utah-based Minky Couture, to hear how the company came to be and what helped turn her vision into such a successful brand.

Sandi’s enthusiasm for what she does is absolutely infectious.

We talk about building a business, the importance of relationships, and something that really stands out about Sandi: her ability to make the people around her feel good.

It’s no wonder Minky blankets make people feel good. When you’re in Sandi’s presence, she has a way of making everyone feel valued.

Whether you’re a business owner, an entrepreneur or someone looking for a little inspiration, there are some great takeaways in this conversation.

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After spending Part One learning about Chauncey’s journey into mediumship, this time she turns the reading toward us — and we had no idea where it was going to go.

Chauncey explains what she calls “piggybacking,” when messages can seemingly move between different people and loved ones. Connections begin coming through for both Frankie and Jess — butterflies that immediately make Frankie think of his late mother-in-law, Dixie; sunflowers, You Are My Sunshine and jewelry that connect with Jess’s family; and other little details that begin adding up.

Then the reading turns toward Frankie’s dad, Ray — and his 88-year-old mom, who is currently in a rehab and care facility.

Frankie opens up about watching his mom change, wondering whether she may already be connecting with loved ones who have passed, and feeling his dad’s presence more strongly as he navigates this chapter.

One message from Chauncey keeps coming through: comfort.

Keep her warm. Be present. And don’t let worrying about what will eventually happen rob you of the time you still have with her now.

The conversation also turns toward Frankie’s son, Axel, and the importance of the time he still has with his grandma. It leads to an honest conversation about anticipatory grief — knowing what may eventually be coming while still trying to stay completely present for the moments happening right now.

Then Chauncey says something Frankie wasn’t expecting.

She hears his dad call him “son.”

That hits immediately. It’s what Ray used to call Frankie.

And then comes another message:

“You’re doing the right thing.”

Chauncey talks about the “juggle and the struggle” Frankie has been carrying and says his dad wants him to know that he sees it. She also picks up on a gold pinky ring — Frankie’s dad’s wedding ring, which Frankie now wears as a way of keeping him close.

But one of the most unexpected moments comes through music.

Before arriving at the studio, Chauncey says she inexplicably felt compelled to turn up music in her car — something completely out of character for how she normally prepares for a reading. Sitting in the studio, she begins sensing a strong connection between Frankie, his dad and music.

That opens a story Frankie has carried most of his life.

When Frankie was six or seven, his dad would dim the lights, have him close his eyes and introduce him to the old-time radio programs he’d grown up listening to before television — Dragnet, The Green Hornet, The Lone Ranger, Superman and more.

Years later, Frankie knew he wanted to work in radio.

It wasn’t until he was in his 30s that he realized his dad had planted that seed.

Before Ray died, Frankie was able to tell him: “You’re the reason I got into radio.”

And sitting in the room where Frankie and Jess now record their podcast, surrounded by old radios, cassette tapes and pieces of a career that began decades ago, Chauncey offers another way of looking at it: every time Frankie sits down behind a microphone, he may be connecting to his dad all over again.

It’s a conversation about mediumship, grief, caregiving, signs, family, music, being present — and the ways the people we lose can continue to be woven into the lives we’re still living.

Whether you believe in mediumship, are curious about it, or simply wonder what might exist beyond what we can see, PART TWO gave us plenty to think about.

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