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This week we’re joined once again by one of our favorite guests, Dr. Mark Burton from Aspen Grove Counseling.

We catch up on his incredible family trip celebrating nearly 50 years of marriage, swap cruise stories (including karaoke, drink packages, and travel mishaps), and then dive into what he sees every day in his counseling practice.

Can a therapist really tell within the first 10–20 seconds whether a conversation between a couple is headed in the wrong direction?

What are the biggest issues couples are bringing into counseling today?

Surprisingly, it usually isn’t politics, money, or even constant fighting.

Dr. Burton explains why the biggest challenge for many couples something is much quieter: busy schedules, raising kids, careers, and slowly becoming disconnected from the person they love most. He also shares practical advice for protecting your relationship before it reaches a breaking point and offers encouragement for anyone considering therapy—or even a new career later in life.

If you’re married, dating, raising kids, or simply trying to build stronger relationships, this is a conversation you’ll want to hear.

Connect with Dr. Mark Burton and Aspen Grove Counseling: 📍 1433 S. 1100 E., Salt Lake City, UT 84105📞 (801) 581-0422

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We kick things off by talking about something that really hit home: why we need to normalize taking a day to let our nervous systems recover after being around people. From comfort shows and quiet weekends to reflexology and the importance of slowing down, we share what helps us recharge.

Then it’s classic catch-up mode. Jess talks summer pool parties, church friends, and finding some incredible local businesses. Frankie shares a weekend at the cabin, a possible new vehicle, and getting ready for Axel’s big 10th birthday.

Along the way we get into TV recommendations (Your Friends & Neighbors, Platonic, Shrinking and more), what it’s like raising only children, why kids never outgrow needing love from their parents, Utah’s wildfire danger, fireworks, and a heartbreaking conversation about the way we treat animals.

It’s one of those episodes that feels less like a podcast… and more like hanging out with friends.

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We kick things off with a conversation about boundaries and why the people who get the most upset about them are often the ones who benefited from you having none. From friendships and family dynamics to raising kids and helping them navigate difficult relationships, we explore the challenge of protecting your peace while still staying connected.

We also dive into stories about e-bikes, motorcycles, hiking trails, falling trees and those moments when your gut tells you something isn’t right. Sometimes it’s just intuition. Sometimes it might save your life.

Plus:

• Watching your kids learn hard lessons

• Why people reveal who they really are pretty quickly

• The dangers of e-bikes and distracted drivers

• Weird neighborhood Facebook drama

• DoorDash disasters and KFC confusion

• Vintage station wagons and childhood memories

• Why social media continues to be the greatest reality show ever created

Some episodes are carefully planned.

This one started with boundaries and somehow ended with falling trees, Amazon deliveries, Facebook fights, and life lessons.

In other words, a pretty normal week around here.

Thanks for listening, sharing the show, and being part of our community.

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Tony joins us to talk about Steven Spielberg’s latest film, Emily Blunt’s Oscar-worthy performance, the changing landscape of Hollywood, and why a new generation of creators are finding success without waiting for permission from the traditional gatekeepers.

We also dive into Tony’s incredible career, including how he first met Steven Spielberg through legendary Twilight Zone creator Rod Serling, and why some of Hollywood’s biggest names still know Tony by name decades later.

Plus:

🎬 Spielberg stories

🎬 The rise of independent filmmakers

🎬 YouTubers disrupting Hollywood

🎬 Influencers vs. journalists

🎬 StoryForge 3000 and mentoring the next generation of storytellers

🎬 Why great storytelling will always matter

If you love movies, behind-the-scenes Hollywood stories, or conversations about creativity and chasing your passion, you’ll love this one.

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“Walls keep everybody out. Boundaries teach them where the door is.”

From there, it’s our usual catch-up episode filled with the stories, observations, and conversations that made up the week.

Jess shares her experience spending a day behind the scenes with United Airlines during Take Your Kid to Work Day, while Frankie reflects on Father’s Day, family hikes, Dadhood and why he’s become such a fan of barefoot hiking.

We also talk about:

• The Forge Through Fire event and the impact Joe Tuia’ana continues to have on so many lives

• Why quality matters more than quantity when you’re building a community

• The surprising lessons that come from slowing down and being intentional

• Summer heat, Arizona memories, and melting street signs

• Running into Real Housewives of Salt Lake City cast members around town

• Weird phobias, random life moments, and the stories that make us laugh

As always, it’s a little bit of everything: family, friendship, personal growth, community, and finding meaning in the everyday moments.

Thanks for spending part of your week with us.

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We kick things off talking about something we all need to pay closer attention to what we’re consuming. From food to content to conversations, everything we take in either feeds us or drains us.

We talk about online negativity and why people seem so much harsher behind a screen than they ever would be face-to-face. Why can’t people just scroll on? Why is empathy sometimes in such short supply online?

We also revisit the mysterious train crash story and listener experiences involving phone calls and voicemails from loved ones who have passed. Are there signs? Coincidences? Something more?

Jess shares a heartbreaking story about meeting a former labor and delivery nurse whose seizures changed the course of her career, while Frankie reflects on Parkinson’s, purpose, and how people reinvent themselves when life forces them onto a different path.

We also tackle bare-knuckle boxing, political mailers, cats on kitchen tables, and whether some things just belong off the counter.

Thanks for spending part of your week with us.

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What if music isn’t really about music?

This week on The Frankie & Jess Podcast, we sit down with Caleb Chapman—founder of Soundhouse, creator of one of the nation’s premier youth music programs and director of the world-renowned Crescent Super Band.

From growing up north of Boston to building an internationally recognized music program in Utah, Caleb shares the unlikely moments that changed the course of his life: a Journey cassette on his 10th birthday, a teacher who told him his lips were too big to play saxophone, and a music camp his mom sent him to instead of soccer.

But this conversation goes far beyond music.

We talk about aging parents, raising kids differently than we were raised, why young people quit music, and how performance may be one of the most important skills for the future.

Founded in 1998, Soundhouse has become one of the most decorated youth music programs in the country, with alumni connected to bands like Imagine Dragons and performances at Carnegie Hall and major festivals around the world.

This summer, Caleb Chapman’s Crescent Super Band will represent Utah on a national stage as part of America’s 250th birthday celebrations in Washington, D.C. The ensemble has been invited to perform during the America 250 events surrounding our nation’s Semi quincentennial—the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

As artificial intelligence rapidly changes the world around us, Caleb argues that the human ability to connect, perform, and be fully present may become our greatest advantage.

This isn’t just a conversation about music.

It’s a conversation about what makes us human.

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We kick things off with a reminder that everyone you meet is carrying battles you can’t see. From holding the door open to offering a kind word, we talk about the ripple effect of kindness and why it’s often the smallest gestures that matter most.

Jess shares not one, but two unexpected firsts in a single week: getting stung by a bee for the first time at 48 years old and a story that definitely wasn’t on her 2025 bingo card.

Meanwhile, Frankie shares updates on Dadhood’s first family meetup, connecting with the Parkinson’s community, helping family members navigate downsizing, and the emotional challenge of sorting through decades of memories.

• Why your mood drives your brain

• Learning not to bleed your bad days onto others

• Supporting friends through difficult seasons

• Reinventing yourself later in life• Summer hockey camp and guitar lessons with Axel

• Storage units and the things we struggle to let go of

• Fighter jets over Salt Lake and the mixed emotions they stirred

• Taco Time nostalgia and post-softball food debates

• The recent tragedies involving BASE jumping and skydiving

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This episode takes us everywhere.

We talk about a tragic freak accident that reminds us how fragile life can be, the growing problem of trailhead break-ins across Utah, nightmare squatter stories, and why Frankie still can’t understand how some people have more rights than the actual homeowners.

We also dive into some of the strangest stories we’ve ever discussed on the podcast—including the California train crash victim whose cell phone reportedly made dozens of calls to family members after his death. The story sparked hundreds of similar experiences from listeners who believe loved ones may still find ways to reach out after they’re gone.

Along the way, we share family vacation mishaps, Everglades adventures, skydiving close calls, thoughts on risk versus safety, and one of Frankie’s all-time pet peeves: people blowing their noses at restaurant tables.

It’s a little funny, a little spooky, a little frustrating, and a reminder that life can change in an instant—and that sometimes the strangest stories are the ones that stick with us the longest.

Thanks for taking us with you wherever you’re listening. We appreciate every download, share, and conversation.

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Dating coach Kristin Sokol joins Frankie and Jess for a conversation that goes far beyond dating apps.

Kristin shares how a friend secretly created an online dating profile for her back in 2003, leading her to meet her husband and eventually launch a career helping hundreds of people navigate modern relationships.

From first dates and online dating to long-term compatibility and lasting love, Kristin breaks down what actually works when it comes to finding meaningful connection.

• How Kristin accidentally became a dating coach

• The surprising story of meeting her husband online

• Why great first dates often never become second dates

• The danger of a “vulnerability hangover”

• Why chemistry and compatibility aren’t the same thing

• The science behind couples who stay together for decades

• What keeps passion alive in long-term relationships

• How to create more opportunities for connection

• Why fear shouldn’t be driving your decisions

• The importance of curiosity and conversation

• Teaching kids how to become better communicators

• Her experience working with cast members from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

Kristin also shares practical advice for singles navigating dating after divorce, loss, or long periods of being alone.

Whether you’re single, married, dating, divorced, or simply interested in understanding people better, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and real-world advice.

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