This year has seen significant change for the Roman Catholic Church following the death of Pope Francis and the election of Pope Leo in May. In this conversation, Anna Rowlands and Paula Gooder reflect on a year of continuity and change for the Roman Catholic Church, looking back at the legacy of Pope Francis and exploring the shape of Pope Leo’s papacy so far.

Join us as they explore the legacies, priorities, and distinctive styles of these remarkable figures. They discuss the formative years which shaped them, the theological and pastoral themes which marked Francis’ pontificate, and the early signs of continuity and change in the era of Pope Leo.

Professor Anna Rowlands is the St Hilda Professor of Catholic Social Thought & Practice at Durham University, and the author of 'Towards a Politics of Communion: Catholic Social Teaching for Dark Times'. She has interests in everyday ethics and the way that academic research and teaching can engage in wider forms of public benefit and the common good.

Dr Paula Gooder is Canon Chancellor of St Paul's Cathedral.