In this episode, Erin is joined by Dr. Elizabeth Buchanan, Senior Fellow at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute and Polar expert, for a conversation on the growing importance of the polar regions from the Arctic and Antarctic, and how countries like Canada and Australia can deepen partnerships amid this era of geopolitical realignment. The also discuss the increasingly controversial AUKUS agreement and blue sky whether Aussies will ever sail the nuclear submarines the alliance envisions. From polar strategy to procurement to talk about CANZUK, this episode explores how like-minded and value aligned countries can do more together is isolationism of the United States rises amid growing global tensions.