FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye - Healthy Leadership for Life and Ministry

Are we slipping into a pastor crisis here in the United States? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Jimmy Dodd, founder, and CEO of Pastor Serve. Pastor Serve comes alongside pastors and ministry leaders through coaching, consulting, crisis care, and soul care. Jimmy is also the author of several books, including the best-selling Survive or Thrive. Together, Jimmy and Jason look at some recent research and assess the current realities of pastoring here in the United States. Then, they look at some incredible places of hope, where you can find support and encouragement as you serve in ministry.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at  http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Jimmy Dodd on teamwork: "Pastors that thrive in ministry have a team that actually surrounds them."

Jimmy Dodd on self-worth: "My self-worth has got to be in Jesus because that is the one stable thing in my life, that's my one rock."

Jimmy Dodd on being authentic: "There are pastors desperate for a safe place to go where they can just be real and honest."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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What happens when toxicity seeps into the culture of our local church? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Scot McKnight, Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary. Scot has written over 80 books, including a church called Tov, which he co-authored with his daughter, Laura Behringer. Together, Scot and Jason explore how we, as ministry leaders, can assess our churches and look for areas of toxicity. Scot also shares how we can overcome those toxic areas and nurture a culture of goodness.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at  http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Scot McKnight on church culture: "We have to nurture cultures of transparency and honesty on the part of everybody in the church, leaders included."

Scot McKnight on nurturing the church: "It takes a lot of effort and discernment to discover what's under the grass that is actually providing nutrients for the church."

Scot McKnight on church justice: "Justice in the Church is do the right thing at the right time."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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How can we address the inevitable disappointments and discouragements in both life and ministry in a way that is healthy for our souls? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Mindy Caliguire. Mindy is the co-founder, along with her husband Jeff, of soul care, a spiritual formation ministry that exists to increase soul health in the body of Christ. Mindy has also served in a variety of senior leadership positions in various ministry organizations. And she and her husband Jeff were church planters in Boston. Together, Mindy and Jason look at some of the unhealthy tendencies we have as ministry leaders when it comes to dealing with disappointments and discouragement. Mindy then shares from her own experiences, ways to process disappointment that honors God and helps us grow in our own spiritual journeys.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at  http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Mindy Caliguire on interior life: "I do not believe that one of the costs we're supposed to count is an ever-diminishing interior life."

Mindy Caliguire on a healthy soul: "Set that intention to live from a healthy soul, and God will take care of the rest."

Mindy Caliguire on rest: "If you've become a little weary in doing good, you're not violating scripture. You just need a little rest."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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In our increasingly fractured world that's just amped up with reactivity. How can we as pastors and ministry leaders create a calming presence in our churches and in our communities? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Rich Villodas lead pastor of New Life Fellowship in Queens, New York. Rich has written several books, including Good and Beautiful and Kind, together, Rich and Jason explore nurturing a culture in our churches that provides an alternative to the mean-spiritedness, and divisiveness that we see in the world all around us. Rich also shares some personal practices, including five questions that we can reflect upon in our own lives as pastors and ministry leaders that can help us overcome reactivity, and engage in conversations with people who may not believe as we do.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at  http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Rich Villodas on defensiveness: "If we are very defensive and have our walls up, I don't think we're going to pastor people well."

Rich Villodas on personal examination: "We need to have a culture that prioritizes emotional health and interior examination."

Rich Villodas on life transformation: "The greatest gift you can give the people around you is your ongoing transformation in Jesus Christ."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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How can we take action to care for our own souls as we are serving others? In this episode, I'm joined by Dan Reiland. Dan serves as the executive director for leadership expansion at 12 Stones Church in Lawrenceville, Georgia, where he also has served for 20 years as the executive pastor. Previously, Dan spent two decades serving with John Maxwell. First as the executive pastor at Skyline Wesleyan Church in San Diego, and then as vice president for leadership and church development at Maxwell Leadership. Together, Dan and I explore four prominent areas of soul care for pastors and ministry leaders. And then Dan shares experiences from his own life that helped illustrate how we can incorporate soul care into our lives as well.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at  http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Dan Reiland on leadership pressure: "As the church grows, the pace increases and the pressure increases… and that's where sometimes leaders can get unhealthy."

Dan Reiland on centering our lives: "Every one of us has to find that sort of soul-deep, quiet, walk-with-God space that brings us back to center on a daily basis."

Dan Reiland on leadership anxiousness: "It’s that low-grade anxiousness, that grind over a long period of time with discouragement, that can really take a leader out."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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How much attention have you been giving to the virtue of humility in your life and in your ministry?  In this episode, I'm joined by Richard Foster and Brenda Quinn. Richard Foster is the Founder of Renovare. He is probably best known for the many books he's written on the topic of spiritual formation, including Streams of Living water, and Celebration of Discipline, which has been read by millions of people worldwide. His latest book is entitled Learning Humility. Brenda serves as a Pastor of Spiritual Formation, at Living Way Fellowship outside of Denver, Colorado. Together, Brenda, Richard and I explore how pastors and ministry leaders have some unique challenges when it comes to nurturing humility. Richard also shares some insights from his year long focus on humility, as he journeyed with Jesus, nature, and many great voices from across the history of the church.  Are you ready? Let's go.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Brenda Quinn on getting to know yourself: "What are my motivations? Who am I? Why do I do what I do? You know, being able to take a hard honest look at ourselves, to let the Holy Spirit reveal who we are, and why we do what we do. And that can be hard, it can be hard to be honest about who we are. But until we get to that place, I don't know that we can start entering into humility.” 
 
Richard Foster on the importance of being teachable: “Let me give another word for humility. Teachability. In order to receive wisdom, I have to be teachable. I let Brenda teach, I let you know, we're all beginners in this we're learning a life of humility before God. And to be teachable, is such an essential feature. And now there's humility. Because we learn from others.”

Richard Foster on practicing humility: “Let's love God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength, our neighbors ourselves. And when we keep first things first, then these other things fall into place in their own time and their own way.”

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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As pastors and ministry leaders, what do we do when we find ourselves in a season where we're out of rhythm or feeling like we're burning out? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Chip Ingram, CEO and teaching pastor of Living On the Edge. Chip's teachings are received by millions of people around the world through television, radio, and digital platforms. Chip has written over a dozen books, and has served for four decades in ministry, pastoring churches ranging in size from a few dozen to several thousand. Chip shares from his own ministry experiences those times when he felt he was imbalanced, out of rhythm, and sort of burning out. Chip also shares practices that he has incorporated into his life to help him grow in deeper connection with God and to create a healthy, sustainable rhythm for his ministry and his life.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Chip Ingram on the emotional state of burning out: "It scared me to death…. my emotions were just numb…. I had grounded out to the point where I didn't feel anything."

Chip Ingram on the importance of understanding ourselves and the baggage we bring into our ministry: "I learned out of that was I have limits, that I am an overwhelming people pleaser, that I I had deep, deep insecurities. And I really recognized those, those are the things that were driving my workaholism."

Chip Ingram on the value of experiencing life in Christ, not just 'doing' ministry: "It's not just being moral or good or being on track, it's life. If I'm not experiencing the life of Christ, I'm missing it."
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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In an era of cynicism and cancel culture, how can our local churches provide hope and healing for those who've experienced emotional and spiritual abuse? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Chuck DeGroat, a licensed therapist and spiritual director, who serves as professor of Counseling and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary. Chuck has written a number of books, including When Narcissism Comes to Church. Together, Chuck and Jason begin by looking at how narcissism in churches and church leaders has been addressed in recent history, especially the past few years. Then, they explore how the local church can minister to survivors of emotional and spiritual abuse.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Chuck DeGroat on how anxiety can play out for ministry leaders who are increasing in their influence and authority: "As you climb the ladder anxiety grows and with that, you become more self-protective and insulated, and you're more apt in situations like that to bully out of your own anxiety."

Chuck DeGroat on shifting from a solitary focus of "getting justice" to working on one's personal healing: "I did want to provide a vision for restoration, recovery, transformation, healing and wholeness for people who have experienced abuse, who have been victimized, who are survivors, who have experienced trauma, and who need to make that shift.... there are processes that we need to engage in order to sort of get justice. But I had to do the work of shifting to: I'm really hurting. And even though some things have been resolved out here, it's still unresolved within me. So what's the work that I need to do to heal and to become whole?"

Chuck DeGroat on how churches can respond to emotional and spiritual abuse: "Can we create the kind of safety and space for people to come and merely be able to tell their stories and be heard...? And then can we set up really good healthy processes, and not just move to peacemaking quickly, but really good processes that will sort of look at these things carefully, investigate carefully, so that we can come to some sort of resolution, maybe even some sort of restoration?"

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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How do we live as salt and light in a world that is growing increasingly skeptical toward all things of the Christian faith? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Jonathan Murphy, department chair of pastoral ministries at Dallas Theological Seminary. Jonathan is also a teaching pastor and the author of Authentic Influencer. Together, Jonathan and Jason explore ways to overcome some of the challenges that society presents to us in ministry. They also look at how a specific biblical character models a way to release ourselves and our people to live as salt and light in our world.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Jonathan Murphy on encouraging our people to be salt and light in their relational spheres: "We need to help mobilize the church, to see… they have the freedom to figure out how to serve the Lord Jesus Christ in the little sphere of life that they have been placed”

Jonathan Murphy on the value God places on ministering relationally: “God's primary tool of shaping other people's lives is people who step up, it's through meaningful relationships”

Jonathan Murphy on the example of Barnabas for ministry leaders: “Barnabas models for us, as pastors and ministry leaders, how to be able to live in a hostile society”

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram

As pastors and ministry leaders, how do we address in a healthy way, our own feelings of regret, pain, shame, even our feelings of being a hypocrite, because we know where we fall short, while others are placing us on a pedestal? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Scott Sauls, pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Scott has written six books, including his latest, Beautiful People Don't Just Happen. Together, Scott and Jason look at our tendency to emphasize the positive while minimizing the pain and suffering in our own lives and ministry, even though it's in those places where God does His most transformative work. Scott also shares some of his personal struggles with anxiety and depression as a pastor, and what God has taught him through those experiences.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Scott Sauls on acknowledging the reality that ministry is challenging: "The job that we've been called to do is one that assumes we're going to be under attack at all times, because the enemy of our soul is also the enemy of what we're trying to do as we participate in the work of Jesus on the front lines of ministry."

Scott Sauls on the importance of having relationships where we can be ministered to: "I highly recommend, you know, a professional safe space where you don't have to be the pro. That's the challenge for pastors is, wherever we show up, you know, you can't blame people, but they, they look at us, you know, they expect us to be the most... together person in the room, even when we're kind of falling apart and, and on the inside. And so we need a place where we can show up and the arrangement is understood by everybody that we are actually the weakest person in the room and need tending and ministering to. "

Scott Sauls on 21st-century cancel culture and ministry: "There's also freedom in failing, you know. 21st-century cancel culture doesn't allow pastors to fail, but the Bible does. I mean I wonder how long, you know, King David would have lasted in the current climate. I wonder if there would have been any possibility of redemption of His ministry."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram