FrontStage BackStage with Jason Daye - Healthy Leadership for Life and Ministry

As a pastor, and as a church, how do you get the most out of a sabbatical? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Jay Fowler. Jay serves as the Midwest Regional Director at PastorServe. He is a certified coach who coaches pastors, consults churches, and serves in crisis care. He is an ordained Anglican priest who has planted churches, pastored and served churches for over 30 years. Jay has also coached many pastors and helped churches through the process of coaching around sabbaticals, and he has written the Sabbatical Prep Workbook. Together, Jay, and I look at not only the value of a sabbatical for a pastor, but also the value of a sabbatical for the local church. Then we also explore some of the ways that you can actually get the most out of that sabbatical time, making it as effective and impactful as possible, for both the pastor and the church.
Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Jay Fowler on getting the most from your sabbatical: “Preparation time for the sabbatical is just as important as the actual sabbatical itself”

Jay Fowler on why sabbaticals are gaining more interest: "I think for sabbaticals and the need for them, it's an understanding of the soul of the pastor. And I think more and more churches are saying, like, we don't want that. We don't want a pastor that snaps and we don't want one that's malformed. We'd like a healthy pastor."

Jay Fowler on the value of a sabbatical coach: "Those three phases of sabbatical coaching [pre-sabbatical, during sabbatical, post-sabbatical] really benefit the pastor, and then ultimately, I really do believe benefit the church."

Jay Fowler on praying as you prepare for sabbatical: "“I really encourage pastors to pray: Lord, what do you want to say to me? What do you want to do in me? How do you want to meet me in this sabbatical?”

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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How might trauma in our own lives impact the way we serve in ministry? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by the Reverend Dr. Nicole Martin, who was recently appointed as the Chief Impact Officer at Christianity Today. Previously, Nicole served as the Senior Vice President of Ministry Impact at the American Bible Society, where she also provided leadership to the Trauma Healing Institute. Nicole has written several books, and currently serves on the board of the National Association of Evangelicals. Together, Nicole and I explore some of the potential dangers and the positive benefits when it comes to examining trauma in our own lives. And we also look at how we can help make our lives, our homes, and our churches, places of healing.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Nicole Martin on the need for pastors to address their own trauma: "Pastors have to tend to our own wounds, because it is out of our woundedness that we can connect to the wounds of others."

Nicole Martin on ministry leaders reluctance to address their own wounds: "Leaders tend to believe that God will do more for others than he will do for us…. Believe that God wants to heal you as much as he wants to heal others."

Nicole Martin on the value of safe spaces and relationships for ministry leaders: "Every pastor has to ask himself or herself, who is my community, who's in my community, that might speak God's Word over me and be the place of healing? Where are my safe people?"

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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In a world filled with skepticism, cynicism, defeat and despair, how can we as pastors and ministry leaders uncover authentic hope? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Danielle Strickland. Danielle is a best-selling author and a powerful speaker. She's the founder of many ministries and gospel movements, and she's also launched and created several justice initiatives for the Salvation Army. Together, Danielle and Jason explore how cynicism can sometimes seep into our ministries. They also look at practices in which we can engage in our lives as we face challenging times to help us find the shalom center, so that we can lead out of the hope of Christ.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Danielle Strickland on the importance of honesty as it relates to hope: “If you will not be honest about who you are and what you're struggling with, there will not be hope to be found, because hope is honest”

Danielle Strickland on what to do if you're lacking in hope: "Hope is the living presence of God at work in the world... If you're lacking in hope, what you need is to spend time with hope… look for where God is at work….. and watch God show up”

Danielle Strickland on why challenging times are a gift to the Church: "I think the season we're in as a Church, as a culture, is such a gift to us. Because what we kind of identify as sorrow is actually, just we're no longer self-sufficient. We can't do this, but with God. And that is a great gift to us, because what it's doing is it's knocking us down that vertical continuum into a center place where we actually come back into agreement: Oh, yeah, God does these things. God changes the human heart. God is our hope for a future that we can't see yet. God is the one that can actually give me what I need for today. God is the possibility of the future of the Church, for example. God is doing some things that I can't do."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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In a world of deconstruction, how do we handle our doubts in a healthy way as ministry leaders? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Dr. Travis Dickinson, professor of philosophy at Dallas Baptist University. Travis has literally traveled the world addressing big questions of faith, and he's the author of Wandering Toward God. Together, Travis and Jason look at the value of doubt in our faith journeys. Travis also provides some great insights for ministry leaders who might be wrestling with doubts, uncertainties, and questions themselves.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Travis Dickinson on doubt and Christian faith: "Asking questions is a crucial part of Christian discipleship.... Doubts are consistent with faith. They're not opposites."

Travis Dickinson on big questions of faith and deconstruction: "I'm really fine with the idea of deconstruction if it just means really thinking through what we believe and kind of breaking it down and seeing what we should believe and what we shouldn't. But I think the word deconstruction just too often means, you know, it's sort of one step away from de-converting, today.... I'm saying doubt is really important, and it's a value, but it's not a place to stay. It's not a good in itself.... But there's a lot of pastors and sort of online personalities that are celebrating doubt as if that's, in deconstruction, as if that's the place to end up. And I think that's just really misguided."

Travis Dickinson on how ministry leadership and doubts: "That's really what it's about, is that [ministry leaders] would wrestle themselves with these questions, and then be able to lead others to truth."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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As ministry leaders, regardless of gender, age, or stage in life, we all need to be connected to meaningful community that helps us develop and resources us to lead effectively. In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Jo Saxton. Jo is an author, speaker, podcast host, and leadership coach. She has led ministries and nonprofits and has pastored and planted churches. In a spirit of generosity, hope, and respect, Jo shares opportunities that we have as the Church to help women and the next generation live into their God-given potential. Jo and Jason also explore ways that every ministry leader can experience healthy relationships that help us overcome past wounds and feelings of loneliness.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Jo Saxton on understanding the examples of women in leadership in scripture: “When we look at the arc of scripture, and we see what women were actually doing, would those women be received today? And if not, why not?”

Jo Saxton on the importance of proximity in raising up new leaders: “If we're going to raise up other leaders, then we need to give [them] access and proximity to our story”

Jo Saxton on healthy boundaries and healthy leadership development: “I don't think it has to be either/or. I think healthy boundaries and healthy leadership development can exist for men and women.”

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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We never know when a crisis may strike our church or community, so the question is: are we prepared to lead our church through that crisis? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Rusty George. Rusty is the lead pastor of Real Life Church, a multisite church with campuses throughout Southern California. Real Life Church is making a great kingdom impact, but they've also had their share of crises, including the suicide of a staff pastor and a school shooting in their community. Rusty shares some of the lessons that he has learned and some of the things that he wishes he would have known before they experienced crisis. Together, Rusty and Jason discuss some of the ways that we can minister in the midst of crisis.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this episode:

Rusty George on the reality of crisis in the contemporary Church: "Certainly with the anxiety and depression levels the way they are today, crisis is just a matter of time, and unfortunately, for a lot of us, we don't think about it until we're in it."

Rusty George on feeling alone during a crisis: "Out of all the highs and lows in ministry, one of the toughest things was the people I thought would walk with me through it, some of them didn't. And when you have that happen, that really makes you feel alone."

Rusty George on the redemptive power of God: "We have a perfect Father, and He loves us, and He will redeem all things. Everything does not happen for a “reason” but everything can be redeemed."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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Top of 2022 // Our #1 Most Engaged Episode of 2022

Resiliency in ministry is such an important topic and that's exactly what we get into on this episode of FrontStage BackStage with my guest, New York Times bestselling author John Eldredge. Be watching and listening specifically for what John has to say about benevolent detachment. So powerful for pastors, especially if you're wrestling with burning out, or perhaps even tapping out of ministry altogether.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:
John Eldredge on making space to enjoy God’s presence: “Most of my life is dominated by this world, this reality: technology and chaos and demands and meetings and emails. You know, all the crazy stuff. Where am I enjoying the rest of the kingdom of God? Where am I enjoying His presence enough that I am actually experiencing some of that water of life sort of saturating my inmost being so that I can thrive, so that I can live? Because everything is designed to strangle that out of you, right? The whole mess of this planet is designed to just strangle that and keep you in the chaos.”

John Eldredge on sustainability of ministry: “It's fair to ask yourself, is this sustainable? And then to ask Jesus, is there another way? Are there some things that I actually can offload that would make this more sustainable?”

John Eldredge on the true role of a pastor: “Let me relieve you of a burden that the pressure on the modern pastor is to be a global pundit, that you are an expert commentator on all global affairs. That is not your job. I want to relieve you of that.... it's not your job. Your job is to know God and to help your people into, you know, his transforming life, to disciple your people into His presence. You are meant to know God, and the expertise of the world thing has just been saddled on you, and it's crushing, and it will exhaust you.”

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 
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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

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Top of 2022 // Our #2 Most Engaged Episode of 2022

Most pastors do not enter the ministry with the intention of misusing their power and authority, and yet instances of abuse occur. In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by internationally recognized psychologist and counselor, Dr. Diane Langberg, as they discuss some of the unrecognized trappings of power and how to develop a healthy understanding of ministry leadership.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Diane Langberg on why some pastors work harder at protecting the institution of Church rather than the people of the local church: “Part of what happens, and has certainly happened in the American church, is that we see ourselves as serving the system, rather than children who are called to obedience to Jesus Christ.”

Diane Langberg on a key component pastors need in their lives to help maintain healthy leadership: “I would encourage all those in leadership to have people in their lives with whom they can speak the truth, and who will say it back to them. And a place where they can be safe…. In terms of understanding ourselves, we need other voices to help us do that.”

Diane Langberg on the danger of pastors misusing their God-given authority: “Yes, we're created in the image of God and therefore have power and authority in this world and with others, but it must look like him. It isn't there to feed our goals, our higher numbers, our fame, all of those things, which is where it gets very messed up.”
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 
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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession
Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook
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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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As pastors and ministry leaders living in a world that glorifies the hustle lifestyle, is it possible that slowing down and pulling back a bit might actually make our ministry more effective? In this episode of FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Alan Fadling, certified spiritual director, founder of Unhurried Living, and an award winning author. Together, Alan and Jason explore how we can reframe our contemporary understanding of ministry leadership, and instead, allow Jesus to guide us into what he modeled, grace-paced leadership.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Alan Fadling on ministering with the pace of Jesus: “The pace of the kingdom is a pace of grace, not a pace of drivenness. It is a pace of peace, not a pace of anxiety.”

Alan Fadling on leading out of a place of receptivity: "A lot of times, the way we understand and define leadership is in terms of leadership activity. And, of course, there are plenty of good things God gives us to do that make a big difference. But right alongside that, and maybe as the heartbeat of that is our practice of a receptivity. We have to receive from God that which we give to others. If we're truly living in the kingdom of God, then what we have to offer has first been given us. This has been how it is in the kingdom all along."

Alan Fadling on understanding our relationship with Jesus as ministry leaders: "What I need is a non-utilitarian relationship with God. I don't want every moment I have with God to be for a ministry purpose."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Complimentary 1-hour Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook 

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram 

Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

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For centuries, leaders in the church have wrestled with the temptation to tie our identities to what we produce in ministry, or who we are as pastors, rather than who we are in Christ. In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Andrew Arndt. Andrew is a teaching pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, and the author of Streams in the Wasteland. Together, Andrew and Jason explore practices that help us experience refreshment for our souls as the Spirit strips away some of the inessentials and distractions, and grounds are identity in Jesus.

Dig deeper into this conversation: Find the free Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide, all resource links, and more at http://PastorServe.org/network

Some key takeaways from this conversation:

Andrew Arndt on deconstruction and spiritual formation: "We need to approach all the strippings of our lives, even the deconstructions of our lives, with a confidence that God is not just on the other side of it, but God is in the midst of it, and he's making a new creation out of us"

Andrew Arndt on ministry leaders and meaningful relationships: "What I think is especially challenging for pastors is understanding the kinds of relationships that we need to have that that will make our lives whole and sound"

Andrew Arndt on avoiding a codependent relationship with your ministry: "When I don't 'need' the ministry, I can really serve the ministry. When I don't 'need' the platform that God has given me, then I can really use the platform in a way that is more about God and other people than it is about me."

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the entire Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide (Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our amazing guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how that episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your regular staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.)

Love well, live well, and lead well 

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Looking to dig more deeply into this topic and conversation? FrontStage BackStage is much more than another church leadership show, it is a complete resource to help you and your ministry leaders grow. Every week we go the extra mile and create a free toolkit so you and your ministry team can dive deeper into the topic that is discussed.

Visit http://PastorServe.org/network to find the Weekly Toolkit, including the Ministry Leaders Growth Guide. Our team pulls key insights and quotes from every conversation with our guests. We also create engaging questions for you and your team to consider and process, providing space for you to reflect on how each episode's topic relates to your unique church context. Use these questions in your staff meetings, or other settings, to guide your conversation as you invest in the growth of your ministry leaders.

Love well, live well, & lead well

Complimentary Coaching Session for Pastors http://PastorServe.org/freesession

Follow PastorServe LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook

Connect with Jason Daye LinkedIn | Instagram