Fruiting Bodies

In Episode 6, We are joined by Margaret Jacobsen, or MJ (they/them), who is a dear friend, parent, community leader, educator, and one of the most loving people we know. We explore some deeply personal topics with humor and heart. MJ tells it like it is.

Join us as we dive into a meandering discussion that intersects with psychedelic healing: raising biracial children, unconventional parenting, postpartum depression, the importance of self-care and therapy, being a voice for the Black community, and a bunch of fun and serious tidbits in between.

This is a powerful and important episode. We invite listeners who are new to listening to Black voices and perspectives to set an intention to truly hear what is being expressed. We can begin to heal when we return to a heart-centered way of relating: honoring our shared humanity, listening with intent to understand, and validating lived experiences that are different from our own.  What's in this episode:

Getting to know MJ (3:43)

Being Black in Oregon and love for the outdoors (4:42)

Unconventional parenting and being open with our children about racism (7:10)

Growing up within religion (12:48)

Raising kids and are playdates all that great? (13:22)

Taking other people’s advice on raising children (15:15)

MJ’s journey through postpartum depression and their experience with talk therapy (16:06)

Stigma within the church toward therapy and psychedelics (19:05)

Why self-care is so important (21:19)

MJ’s spiritual insurance policy and what we want Heaven to be like (23:28)

Psychedelics in the Black community (25:54)

Voodoo and witches (32:15)

The unfair treatment of Black folks within legal cannabis (34:09)

The power of pleasure and self worship (38:29)

MJ’s dreamy dream (42:45)

Interesting hobbies and passions (45:21)

What does healing mean to you? (47:39)

This episode is not to be missed. Huge thank you to the wonderful Margaret Jacobsen for joining us. Follow them on Instagram at @margejacobsen.

And special thank you to the people behind the scenes who help make the Fruiting Bodies podcast possible. Go send them some love!

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. Visit our website to find past show notes, join the conversation, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy.

Thank you for supporting our shared mission!

-Elan & Becca

This is the beginning of an interview series which seeks to paint a large picture of the healing justice movement, of which psychedelic medicine is just one piece. We are joined by Lola Milholland, an award-winning writer, newsletter author of “Group Living”, CEO of Umi Organics, and creative event planner. In this episode, we get to know Lola and learn about her experiences growing up in a drug-positive household. We explore numerous topics: mushrooms, being a small business owner, and family life in an unconventional, drug-positive environment. This conversation is hugely relevant to listeners who are new to the psychedelic renaissance or interested in how psychedelics intersect with other communities, disciplines and forms of advocacy. 

What you’ll find in this episode:

What does healing mean to you? (31:50)

Links:

Newsletter: Group Living (substack.com)

Umi Organics Website: Umi Organic

Umi Organics Instagram: Umi Organic (@umiorganic) • Instagram photos and videos

Huge thank you to the people behind the scenes who help make the Fruiting Bodies podcast possible:

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. Visit our website to find past show notes, join the conversation, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy.

Thank you for supporting our shared mission!

-Elan & Becca

We have an exciting and diverse lineup of interviews coming out starting next week. Before we do, we wanted to pause to zoom out and discuss some important elements of this work. Every so often, we'll pause our regular interview format for a Real Talk episode where we can slow down and digest some of the larger themes we've been uncovering in our conversations. 

In this conversational episode with Elan and Becca, we dive deep into the need to focus on integration of psychedelics and other peak experiences. We discuss the mantle of leadership in this space and ways to channel the outpouring of eagerness to get involved. You'll even get to hear Becca’s most challenging trip story.

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. You can also find show notes, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy at FruitingBodiesCollective.com. Thank you for supporting our mission!

(Note: Rebecca was the primary host on this episode. Elan and Rebecca will often alternate roles.)

Sam's origin story [2:05]

Sam's involvement with SSDP (Students for Sensible Drug Policy), medical cannabis legalization, and policymaking [8:20]

Sam's role in Measure 109 & Healing Advocacy Fund [10:55]

About Measure 109 [13:35]

Lessons from the cannabis field [21:00]

The difference between legalization and decriminalization [47:15]

Message for white allies (& those who aspire to be allies) [58:40]

Elan speaks on allyship [1:01:35]

What healing means to him [1:15:45]

"We should absolutely decriminalize psilocybin and psychedelics. If you're claiming that you're doing this to end prohibition and the harms of the war on drugs, you've got to open your scope. People are not going to jail at the same rate for psychedelics as they are for other drugs. Decriminalization is simply the removal of criminal penalties for possession [Oregon's Measure 110]. Measure 109 is separate. It created its own bubble, which provides legal protection for you to provide or access psilocybin services within the legal structure. " -Sam Chapman

Huge thank you to Sam for joining us! To learn more about the Healing Advocacy Fund, visit their website here, or follow them on social media: 

Twitter: @voteyeson109

Instagram: @healingadvocacyfund

If you'd like to support Fruiting Bodies, you can contribute to our GoFundMe, join our newsletter, and follow us on Instagram.

The second installment of our podcast launch is here! We've switched roles and put Rebecca in the hot seat.

Come get to know our beloved creative director and co-founder, Rebecca Martinez. Rebecca is an Oregon born and raised parent, author, farmer, and community organizer. 

In this episode, we discuss:

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. You can also find show notes, contribute to our fundraiser, join our email list and download free guides to microdosing and psilocybin therapy at FruitingBodiesCollective.com. Thank you for supporting our mission!

The psychedelic healing movement has found its way into each of our lives in unique and unexpected ways. To start off this psilocybin-therapy-community-building-extravaganza that is Fruiting Bodies Collective on the right foot, we’re going back to our roots, back to the very beginning.

Come get to know our beloved CEO and co-founder, Elan Hagens. Elan is a Portland, Oregon born-and-raised gourmet mushroom entrepreneur, foraging and wildcrafting educator, and food justice advocate.

In this episode, we discuss:

Topics discussed in this episode:​ ​

Stay connected by following us on Instagram @fruitingbodiesco. You can also contribute to our fundraiser and join our email list at FruitingBodiesCollective.com. Thank you for supporting our mission!