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Steve Hou is the head of research at Silicon Data and a veteran quantitative investment strategist. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss rising GPU rental prices and falling token prices, how investors should think about the data driving AI economy, where value will accrue for tech investors in the year ahead, and more.
This episode is sponsored by Y'all Street Asset Management: https://www.yallstreetetfs.com/
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Where are we in the AI cycle?
2:17 - GPU rental prices soaring
4:01 - AI frontier vs. flash models
7:18 - Falling token prices
9:20 - Jevons paradox
10:36 - The business of frontier AI labs
16:04 - What investors are pricing in
18:39 - Are valuations attractive?
21:05 - Where AI profits will accrue
25:20 - Bullish Nvidia?
26:49 - GPU depreciation
30:48 - What investors should worry about
33:41 - Is AI a bubble?
36:07 - Follow Steve
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Phil Neuhart is the head of market and economic research at First Citizens Bank. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss his favorite investment opportunities for 2027, the under-the-radar risks for the AI trade and macro backdrop, and what heโs putting in client portfolios right now.
Today's episode is sponsored by Direxion: https://www.direxion.com/product/daily-tsla-bull-and-bear-leveraged-single-stock-etfs
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - AI trade in trouble?
1:56 - What if AI capex slows?
4:18 - AI adoption hits Main Street
7:39 - Great technology, bad investment?
9:22 - Will mega IPOs drain the market?
11:25 - S&P 500 target: 8,300
12:18 - The bear argument
14:34 - Labor market risks
16:21 - Fed backdrop
18:51 - Factor investing
22:00 - Utilities and consumer staples
23:48 - What clients are worried about
26:34 - What inning is the AI trade in?
28:55 - Data center NIMBYism
33:14 - First Citizens
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Josh Schafer is an investment writer at Barronโs and the author of the Substack, โSearching for Signals.โ He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to unpack the Jensen Huang and Nvidia drama, whether the AI capex cycle is turning bearish, midterm seasonality, and the three stocks he likes best heading into 2027.
This episode is sponsored by Bloomberg: http://bloomberg.com/equityindices
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Nvidia and Jensen Huang scandal
7:22 - Late-stage AI trade
8:17 - Midterm seasonality
10:38 - AI spending and cash flow
12:19 - Value vs. growth
14:30 - Rotation trade
16:46 - AI profits and productivity
20:01 - AI layoffs vs. overhiring
21:19 - Alphabet
27:24 - Visa
32:24 - Walmart
36:05 - Searching for Signals
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Drew Pettit is the chief investment strategist at Roundhill Investments, and he previously spent a decade at Citi. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss why the AI trade seems late cycle, how much growth is priced into stocks, the case for photonics stocks, and more.
This episode is sponsored by Bloomberg: http://bloomberg.com/equityindices
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
๐ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/full-signal/id1850620905
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Late-cycle bull market
2:37 - Stocks getting cheaper?
5:07 - Bubble in expectations?
6:29 - Markets need bears
7:33 - Sentiment vs. reality
9:42 - Options data
11:27 - Low correlation trades
14:38 - Stock pickers or thematics?
17:15 - Mag 7 outlook
19:51 - Software and AI risk
22:00 - Photonics and optics
25:32 - HALO stocks and LOHA
27:29 - Canadian Natural Resources
29:21 - Kirby
31:07 - Thematic ETFs
35:38 - Core and satellite investments
37:56 - Roundhill Investments
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Rhys Williams is the chief investment officer at Wayve Capital Management and has been in the markets since 1987, managing about $2 billion at the peak of the dot-com bubble. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss why today's AI boom isn't a repeat of 1999, the data center backlash, Anthropic's S-1, his barbell portfolio strategy, and his top stock picks for 2027.
This episode is sponsored by Y'all Street Asset Management: https://www.yallstreetetfs.com/
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Another dot-com?
1:31 - Data center backlash
3:15 - Lessons from 1990s
7:01 - AI bear case
9:52 - Anthropic's S-1
11:12 - Barbell portfolio for 2027
12:09 - Undervalued stock picks
17:16 - Energy vs. AI
19:39 - Gas stocks and pipelines
23:16 - Consumer staples
27:14 - Astera Labs
30:13 - AI selloff
35:01 - Wayve Capital
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Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor and the founder of 22V Research. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss how AI is driving rates and the broader macro picture, what Microsoftโs buyouts mean for labor and capital, his bullish case for Eli Lilly and Micron, and his investment outlook for the year ahead.Today's episode is sponsored by Direxion: https://www.direxion.com/product/daily-tsla-bull-and-bear-leveraged-single-stock-etfsFull Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:๐ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/full-signal/id1850620905๐ข Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CX5KAB0jdOTBNPVJOHN6D๐จ Subscribe to Opening Bell Daily: https://www.openingbelldailynews.com/subscribeFollow Phil on X: https://x.com/philrosennFollow Phil on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-rosen-763601187/๐ธ Sign up for Silvia, your personal AI CFO that helps you manage your finances: https://silvia.com/?utm_source=opening_bell&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=phil_rosenTIMESTAMPS:0:00 - AI as macro
3:53 - Next year looks different
5:41 - SPVs and private credit
7:40 - Hyperscaler free cash flow
9:27 - Microsoft buyouts
13:25 - Corporate layoffs coming?
15:15 - Redistributing profits vs. UBI
17:19 - Where's the AI productivity data?
24:29 - Eli Lilly and longevity
29:28 - Micron
33:43 - Investing predictions
36:39 - Overweight crypto
39:40 - Follow Jordi#podcast #investing #markets #tech #ai #macro #stocks #bitcoin #fed
Adam Parker is the founder of Trivariate Research and Trivector Research, and he was formerly the Chief US Equity Strategist and Director of Global Quantitative Research at Morgan Stanley. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to unpack his favorite stocks and sectors for 2027, why he's still optimistic on semiconductors and memory, the thesis for healthcare, and more.
Today's episode is sponsored by Direxion: https://www.direxion.com/product/daily-tsla-bull-and-bear-leveraged-single-stock-etfs
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - AI cycle 1/3 done
3:28 - Micron
8:44 - Weakest part of AI trade
12:23 - Run more diversified
18:57 - Buy and hold is broken
22:10 - Expensive stocks and earnings
26:13 - Don't add to losers
29:42 - Healthcare
35:15 - Eli Lilly and GLP-1
38:22 - Semis, power and healthcare
40:30 - Oil stocks and AI power
41:39 - Post-midterm AI rally
42:59 - 2030s industrial revolution
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Eddie Ghabour is the co-founder and CEO of Key Advisors Wealth Management. He joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss his highest-conviction investment ideas for 2027, the Fed's policy error, the undervalued sectors Wall Street is ignoring, and the details of his tactical investing approach versus the typical buy-and-hold strategy.
This episode is sponsored by Bloomberg: http://bloomberg.com/equityindices
Full Signal is available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify 3 hours before YouTube:
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Rising rates
2:29 - AI capex and inflation
3:29 - Bond market leads
6:32 - Debt-financed AI risks
10:05 - Positioning in tech
13:38 - Cybersecurity
16:38 - Healthcare
19:14 - Consumer staples
19:54 - Contrarian housing call
23:31 - Utilities
26:05 - Tactical vs. buy-and-hold
30:37 - Gold
32:24 - Bitcoin
33:41 - Follow Eddie
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Alexandra Wilson-Elizondo is the global head and co-chief investment officer of Multi-Asset Solutions at Goldman Sachs Asset Management. She joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss the next stage of the AI trade, debt financing in the AI buildout, whether today's AI boom resembles the dot-com bubble, opportunities in international markets, and what could outperform in 2027.
This episode is sponsored by Y'all Street Asset Management: https://www.yallstreetetfs.com/
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - 4th stage of AI trade
3:51 - Is AI a bubble?
5:47 - GPU obsolescence risk
9:23 - Credit warning signs
10:34 - Best hedge against AI?ย
11:32 - Pharma and utilities
16:30 - European financials
18:15 - Emerging markets
20:54 - Japan
24:37 - Longevity trade
29:31 - Back to fundamentals
31:10 - Goldman Sachs
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Stephanie Aliaga is a global market strategist at JP Morgan Asset Management, where she focuses on AI's role in markets and the economy. She joins Phil Rosen on Full Signal to discuss why the AI cycle is still early, the selloff in neocloud stocks, hyperscaler moats and frontier lab economics, why AI isn't showing up in productivity data yet, and her favorite opportunities for the AI trade for the year ahead.
Today's episode is sponsored by Direxion: https://www.direxion.com/product/daily-tsla-bull-and-bear-leveraged-single-stock-etfs
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - We're still early in AI
2:43 - Neocloud financing fears
4:46 - Demand vs. financing
7:10 - Hyperscaler balance sheets
10:46 - Frontier lab token economics
15:06 - AI agents boom
17:05 - Enterprise AI adoption
20:24 - Where's the productivity gains?
26:24 - Where to invest now
30:16 - Favorite sectors
34:07 - US vs. international
37:29 - Too late to buy AI?
39:07 - What could derail the AI trade
40:44 - Follow Stephanie
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