Full Uncut Conversation- Naomi Klein: Tackling the “Doppelganger”, Disinformation & Lies

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Episode Summary: In her new book, "Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World”, award-winning journalist Naomi Klein describes being confused with Naomi Wolf, a conspiracy-minded anti-vaxxer. In this conversation, Klein describes researching doppelgangers and listening to conspiracist Steve Bannon's podcasts, in order to uncover why we have shadow selves, and how disinformation and conspiracy theories gain power.

“[I think that] the pressure we're putting on the self . . . is part of why we're seeing so many people crack. I don't think the self can support the amount that we are putting on it: It's our income. It's our retirement. It's our safety. It's our lifeboat . . . And it's an illusion because we cannot protect ourselves from the forces that we're up against . . . Our only hope of protection is through collective work and collective movement building.” - Naomi Klein

“Very often we think that the solution is deplatforming . . . What I've seen is that it's actually kind of supercharged the movement. People wear it as a badge of honor . . . I am less interested in how we control speech and much more interested in how we drain conspiracy culture of its energy, of its power.” - Naomi Klein

Guest:

Naomi Klein: Journalist & Best-Selling Author, Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World, The Shock Doctrine, No Logo, This Changes Everything & On Fire