In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, Frank Cottle sits down with Robert Schogger — Joint Chief Executive and Co-Founder of MetSpace — to explore how the managed workspace model is reshaping the future of commercial real estate. As a pioneer in the U.K.’s flexible office space sector since 1996, Robert shares hard-earned insights on redefining the client-landlord relationship, improving sustainability, and creating value through self-contained, service-first workspaces. 

Together, they break down the industry’s most misused buzzwords, challenge outdated leasing norms, and uncover how flexibility is shifting power from landlords to occupiers. From practical design innovations to the deeper economic and environmental impact of managed offices, this episode is packed with strategic takeaways for property owners, investors, and business leaders navigating a fast-changing work landscape. 

About This Episode  In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, host Frank Cottle sits down with Matt Bertman, a seasoned HR executive and best-selling author of The Insightful Leader, to explore what leadership really looks like—through the eyes of employees. Drawing from over 25 years in leadership development across industries like tech, real estate, insurance, and automotive, Matt reveals the most common blind spots that leaders miss, why 60% of employees would fire their boss if given the chance, and how post-COVID hybrid work has changed the rules of engagement. Together, they discuss the shift from hierarchical command to trust-based communication, the role of emotional intelligence, and how leaders can better empower and understand their teams. This episode is a must-listen for any executive looking to transform their leadership style for the modern workplace. 

In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, we bring together three visionary leaders to explore how organizations can radically reimagine work: from reducing time to improving impact, from hierarchical management to leader‑creation, and from forced culture programs to conditions for authentic belonging.  

Dr. Dale Whelehan leads the global campaign for the four‑day workweek and helps companies redesign work systems to meet human psychological and physiological needs. Chris McAlister specializes in leadership development that creates self‑sustaining teams, not just managers. Drew Jones examines how workplace culture is shaped by environment, autonomy and experimentation. Together, they offer actionable insight into how forward‑thinking organizations can address burnout, evolve leadership, foster meaningful culture and make shorter workweeks a strategic advantage — not a cost. 

Is burnout a personal failure — or a sign that the system is broken? In this powerful episode, Priya Rathod, Co-Chair of Indeed’s Parents & Caregivers Inclusion Resource Group, unpacks the truth behind today’s workplace stress epidemic. Drawing from her experience in product strategy, UX, and inclusive leadership, Priya explains why burnout, job insecurity, and rigid policies are pushing people — especially working parents and caregivers — to their limits.  

This conversation goes beyond wellness perks to spotlight what truly matters: flexible systems, belonging, trust, and real psychological safety. If you're navigating career uncertainty, managing caregiving responsibilities, or leading a team through change, this episode will leave you rethinking how we define success and build supportive work cultures in a constantly evolving world. 

In this compelling episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, we dive into the transformative intersection of artificial intelligence, human‑centered automation and workplace evolution. We’re joined by three industry trail‑blazers: Angela Hood, founder and CEO of ThisWay Global — a company that uses AI to mitigate bias, match talent and unlock human potential across thousands of organizations. Jeremy Fennema, a seasoned IT executive and fractional CTO, who brings over two decades of experience in digital transformation, agile innovation and applying AI inside enterprise workflows. And Ram Srinivasan, an executive consultant and AI adoption leader at JLL, MIT alumnus and author of The Conscious Machine, who explores how AI can amplify human potential rather than replace it.

Together, they unpack critical topics for the future of work — how remote/virtual and in‑office working models will co‑exist, why AI adoption is non‑negotiable for knowledge workers, how organizational practices must evolve to manage bias and human‑centered systems, what the shifting skillsets are for tomorrow’s workforce, and how companies can move beyond the hype of AI into measurable value.  

From talent sourcing and diversity ROI to developers, testers and QA in an AI‑augmented world, this conversation is rich with strategic insights and practical take‑aways for leaders, technologists and everyone working at the intersection of people and technology. 

In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, workplace culture expert and author Bree Groff joins us to challenge outdated ideas about what work is — and what it could be. Drawing from her book Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously), Bree shares insights from decades of guiding Fortune 500 leaders through meaningful transformation.  

We explore why fun at work isn't a perk — it's essential. From the science of engagement to the impact of cozy teams, Bree offers a human-centered blueprint for reshaping our relationship with work, leadership, and each other. 

The office space crisis is not just about vacancies — it's about evolution. In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, we welcome Andrea Pirrotti-Dranchak, Head of Real Estate, Americas at infinitSpace and one of the world’s leading authorities in flexible workspace.  

With over 25 years of experience driving innovation in real estate across 65+ countries, Andrea joins host Frank Cottle to unpack the growing misalignment between traditional commercial real estate and the needs of today’s occupiers. From shrinking lease terms to hybrid demands, and suburban growth to the economics of amenities, Andrea delivers hard truths, fresh strategies, and a clear-eyed call for a flexible, user-first future of space.  

This episode is a must-listen for landlords, brokers, occupiers — and anyone reimagining the workplace. 

In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, we sit down with Chase Warrington, Head of Operations at Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist, and a pioneer in managing distributed teams. With over 15 years of experience scaling remote operations across six continents and 45+ million users, Chase offers a behind-the-scenes look into how Doist creates high-performing teams across time zones and cultures. From asynchronous workflows to values-driven leadership and radical transparency, this conversation explores how modern companies can build scalable, human-centered cultures without ever requiring an office. Whether you're a leader navigating hybrid models or a startup going fully remote, this episode is your playbook for the future. Thanks to our friends at Running Remote for connecting us with Chase. 

Flexible work isn’t new — but doing it well is still rare. In this powerful episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, host Frank Cottle sits down with Cali Williams Yost, a globally recognized futurist, strategist, and CEO of the Flex+Strategy Group.  

With nearly three decades of experience guiding Fortune 500 companies, Yost explains why simply offering remote or hybrid options isn’t enough—and how organizations can design flexible work strategies that truly drive performance, innovation, and well-being. 

From the myths of “return to office” to the blind spots in AI implementation, Cali offers a wake-up call to leaders stuck in outdated thinking. She explores the role of shared leadership, cross-functional alignment, ergonomic remote design, and Gen Z expectations — and reveals how flexibility, when executed with intention, becomes a competitive advantage.

What does it mean to build a business that’s good for both people and the planet — especially when AI is part of the equation?  

In this episode of The Future of Work® Podcast, Frank Cottle speaks with Kate O’Neill, CEO of KO Insights, a digital transformation strategist and author of What Matters Next. With decades of experience advising governments and Fortune 500 companies, Kate offers a compelling case for aligning AI adoption with ESG goals and the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.  

This conversation unpacks the risks of lip service ESG, the strategic role of meaningful data, and how companies can rethink success metrics to create value beyond profit — while staying competitive. If you're curious about how innovation and ethics can co-exist, this one’s for you.