From a "scrappy" punk kid to a corporate big wig at Marshall, Steph Carter has had an unusual and contrasting journey in the music business.

He joins the pod to discuss the shocking rise and unfortunate demise of his old band before using his experience to help guide one of the most recognisable brands in rock n' roll.

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