In this episode of Tales, Trails, and Taverns, Joe takes Rob deep down the rabbit hole of the GATE program—an educational initiative originally designed to challenge and support gifted students. But along the way, the conversation takes a much darker and more unsettling turn.
Why do so many former GATE students, across different states and decades, report strikingly similar memories? Being pulled from class into darkened rooms. Men in suits carrying briefcases. Headphones, strange frequency tests, logic cards… and a thick pink drink with no explanation.
Some even recall experiences they later identified as astral projection or heightened awareness—memories many say were buried for years.
Joe and Rob break down the documented, real-world purpose of the GATE program, separating fact from speculation, while also exploring how programs meant to identify gifted minds could be vulnerable to misuse.
Could intelligence agencies like the CIA have seen opportunity in a system already designed to isolate exceptional children? Or are these shared memories the result of misunderstood testing, childhood perception, and decades of silence?
This episode doesn’t claim answers—but it asks uncomfortable questions about education, secrecy, and how easily good intentions can be twisted.
Listener discretion advised—this one lingers long after the credits roll.

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