Could a smart video strategy be your key to selling more trips? Tony Gnau believes it might be.

A former TV news reporter, founder of a video production company and author of the Amazon bestselling book “Lights, Camera, Impact,” Tony has spent his career using video to tell meaningful stories — and helping companies do the same. He joins this episode of the podcast to discuss travel organizations can use video to build trust, extend their brands and grow their sales.

Tony shares video storytelling techniques that every traveler can use. He also discusses the number-one issue making DIY videos seem unprofessional and shares a video sales funnel proved to turn viewers into buyers. Plus, we have news about a new fee tax in Mexico; a road tip about holiday season trips; and a Hot Minute about the increasing burden of taxation on tourists.

Tony had lots of great insights on how travel professionals can capture better videos on the road. Here’s his top tip for DIY travel videos:

“The camera you have in your pocket is a fantastic video camera… [But] If you’re out in the field somewhere, leading a tour group, you’re in a travel environment, the sound on those cameras stinks. You can buy even just a $15-20 microphone that you can attach to your cell phone that will easily double the quality of the audio…. The #1 way to distinguish an amateur video from a professional video isn’t the video itself at all — it’s the audio. So the best way to improve your DIY video quality is to improve the audio.”

Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about Tony Gnau at tonygnau.com.

Learn more about T60 Productions at t60productions.com.

Find Ashley Runyon’s tips for Christmas trips in Select Traveler magazine.

See our latest OnSite FAM opportunities and sign up for more trip announcements here.

1:18 — Travel News: Mexico implements new cruise passenger fee

2:40 — Road Tip: Leaning into the holiday spirit on trips

6:39 — Five great familiarization tours coming in 2025

10:48 — Why so many corporate videos are awful

16:19 — The power of the video camera in your pocket

17:36 — The biggest problem with your videos is bad audio

22:10 — Why your travel videos should be all about storytelling

26:36 — Should you be on-camera in your travel videos?

32:14 — Making your “About Us” video stand out

35:11 — A video strategy for turning viewers into buyers

38:46 — How much does professional video production cost?

52:25 — Hot Minute: Are tourism taxes getting out of hand?

See the full interview with Tony, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

The adult group travel business isn’t dying. Just ask Brent Dalrymple.

After starting his career in the financial industry, Brent left big business in 2003 to join his parents’ small tour company in St. Louis. Since then, he has overseen enormous growth for his family business, Sunrise Tours, as well as the recently acquired Country Travel Discoveries. Brent joins this episode of the podcast to discuss how group travel has changed, why the industry constantly defies critics and how he is leading his companies in into a successful future.

Brent shares what fundamental value propositions of group travel keep new generations of travelers coming into the industry. He also shares why his companies are offering more international tours than ever and how his travelers have grown to love a more premium product. Plus, we have news about the bright outlook for group travel in 2025; a road tip about electrical outlets; and a Hot Minute about proving the group travel haters wrong.

Brent had lots of great insights on why group travel keeps succeeding despite headwinds from both the economy and culture at large. Here’s how he responds to the idea that generational change will one day render group tours obsolete:

“It has never happened… Generations are not monolithic. In the baby boomers, there are people who want to do things on their own and people who like the social aspect of traveling, just like any generation. And the fact is, the baby boomers are a big group of people, so we’re in the heart of the baby boomer bulge right now. And in that population, there are a lot of people who are attracted to a more social group travel opportunity.”

Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about Sunrise Tours at travelsunrise.com.

Learn more about Country Travel Discoveries at countrytraveldiscoveries.com.

Follow the Von Mack Agency on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and TikTok

See the full results of NTA’s recent destination and tour supplier survey here.

Subscribe to Gather and Go in your favorite podcast app or by email here.

2:18 — Travel News: Destinations and suppliers anticipate group tour growth

3:49 — Road Tip: The perfect travel extension cable

8:24 — Take Gather and Go with you

13:59 — Why Brent Dalrymple left big business to join his family’s tour company

15:45 — How Brent doubled down on group travel during the pandemic

19:13 — How the tastes of adult travel groups are changing

20:46 — Why group travel isn’t dying — and never will

24:22 — How first-timers react to their group travel experiences

25:36 — How Sunrise Tours creates camaraderie among tour passengers

26:38 — How today’s adult groups calculate travel value

33:10 — How legacy tour operators should plan for business transitions

37:32 — Tips for up-and-coming tourism entrepreneurs

38:45 — How Brent finds great young employees

50:16 — Hot Minute: Shutting down the group travel haters for good

Thanks to our sponsor Louisville Tourism for making this episode possible. Learn more about group travel to the Bourbon City at gotolouisville.com/travel-professionals.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

Taking your travel group on the adventure of a lifetime might be easier than you think.

Few places on earth can match the mystique of India, a country with thousands of years of rich culture and tradition. And though it’s far away, India is surprisingly easy to access. On this episode of Gather and Go, Travel Scope India founder Mohan Narayanaswamy joins us to unlock the secrets of his home country. He shares the places every traveler must see, gives us a peak at his favorite hidden treasures, previews the rich variety of Indian cuisine and explains how he makes it easy for group leaders to plan customized, accessible Indian adventures.

This episode is brought to you by the Travel Scope India.

Learn more about Travel Scope India at travelscopeindia.com.

Email Mohan Narayanaswamy at [email protected]

See a video introduction to Travel Scope India’s experiences here.

3:15 — How Mohan Narayanaswamy became an India travel expert

7:15 — A customized approach to traveling in India

9:42 — Discovering India’s diverse geography

11:26 — India’s must-see destinations

19:08 — Uncovering India’s hidden treasures

22:20 — Eating your way through India

24:25 — Myths and misconceptions about visiting India

27:45 — How India has changed

29:28 — What kind of hotels do groups stay at in India?

32:12 — The logistics of taking groups to India

See the full interview with Mohan on our YouTube channel.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

If you run ads for your travel organization online, there’s a good chance you’ve been wasting your money.

Marica Mackenroth Brewster has seen it firsthand. As a tourism marketing veteran and founder of the Von Mack Agency, she has helped companies throughout the travel industry combine smart advertising with time-tested, relationship-based selling strategies. She joins this episode of the podcast to discuss what travel marketers should be doing to get their message out in 2025 and beyond.

Marica tells us why digital-only strategies fall short and why old-school advertising is making a comeback. She gives examples of how create advertising campaigns that serve customers and boost sales at the same time. Plus, we have news about the booming Millennial cruise segment; a road tip about saving yourself from back pain when traveling; and a Hot Minute about how much you should — or shouldn’t — rely on social media to market your travel business.

Marica had lots of great insights on the changing world of advertising and how small companies can succeed in it. Here’s a surprising take she had on the resurgence of traditional advertising:

“The old-fashioned stuff is coming back. In the marketing and advertising community nationally, it’s a big, documented movement to go back to creative and back to the old school…. [This] means your creative has to be good. You have to know your unique selling points. You have to know why you’re different from the guy down the street. You need to know why someone would take your tour over the tour next to you…. And then you have to have that human element in your ads.”

Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about the Von Mack Agency and explore their free marketing resources at vonmackagency.com.

Follow the Von Mack Agency on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn and TikTok

Sign up to receive The Group Travel Minute here.

1:41 — Travel News: Young cruisers are driving growth for Royal Caribbean

2:50 — Road Tip: Save your back with a trolley strap

9:15 — Our best content in your inbox — free

13:37 — How Hurricane Katrina helped Marica Mackenroth Brewster find tourism

16:02 — Lessons learned from real-world tourism sales

20:48 — How to measure return on your marketing spending

23:45 — Why old-school advertising is making a comeback

27:33 — How to advertise online without being creepy

30:49 — Marketing tips for tour operators

35:55 — Can you run a marketing program on your own?

51:45 — Hot Minute: How much should you rely on social media for marketing?

See the full interview with Marica, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.

Thanks to our sponsor Visit Lincoln for making this episode possible. Learn more about Lincoln’s travel experiences for groups at lincoln.org.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

Could one simple oversight bring your entire travel business to a halt?

Sheila Folk has seen it happen. In fact, as an up-and-coming travel advisor, it almost happened to her. So she started Travel Industry Solutions, a company that helps small travel businesses avoid legal and financial fiascos. She joins this episode of the podcast to discuss what travel entrepreneurs should be doing to minimize risk and avoid business nightmares.

Sheila explains why she thinks travel is “the riskiest business in the world” — and how too many travel sellers are leaving themselves dangerously unprepared. She goes into detail about avoiding credit card chargebacks and explains why proper terms and conditions can be a lifesaver for travel businesses. Plus, we have news Biltmore’s reopening after Hurricane Helen; a road tip about new airline refund rules from the Department of Transportation; and a Hot Minute about who should be required to refund travelers when their plans are disrupted.

Sheila had lots of great insights on why travel can be risky and what tourism entrepreneurs should do about it. Here’s a sample:

““There’s a lot of risk around this industry because we’re expected to know so much about every inch of the earth. I have never been in a job where I have been asked so many crazy questions. What can I say and not say that isn’t going to put my business at risk? How do I fulfill my duty of care without putting my business on the line? … There are lots of crazy things that happen that put our businesses at risk. And many people who are sellers are not thinking about those little nuances to protect their business.”

Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about Travel Industry Solutions at travelindustrysolutions.com.

Follow Travel Industry Solutions on Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn.

Learn more about the DOT’s new rules on airfare refunds in this article from Travel Weekly.

Apply to attend our Spring 2025 OnSite familiarization trip in Kentucky here.

1:00 — Travel News: Biltmore reopening on November 2

2:12 — Road Tip: How the DOT’s new airline refund rules could impact you

7:59 — Join us for a familiarization tour in Kentucky

12:09 — How a midlife crisis led Sheila Folk to the travel industry

14:00 — The growing need for risk management help in travel

18:11 — Why travel is “the world’s riskiest business”

21:10 — Avoiding the pain of a credit card chargeback

24:12 — Can you copy and paste terms and conditions from a friend?

25:21 — Special risks that come with packaging tours

29:20 — Using email communications to reduce risk and increase sales

30:34 — Why you must offer travel insurance to every customer

32:48 — The biggest risk tour operators don’t know they’re taking

35:27 — How to choose a payment processor that protects your interests

50:52 — Hot Minute: Should travel sellers be responsible for airfare refunds?

See the full interview with Sheila, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

“Tourist” isn’t a dirty word. Or at least it doesn’t have to be.

Paige McClanahan is redefining the word “tourist” and the ideas that go with it. As a travel journalist and the author of “The New Tourist: Waking Up to the Power and Perils of Travel,” she is on a mission to help people understand how mindful tourism can help create a better world. She joins this episode of the podcast to discuss what tour planners can do to make tourism work better for destinations and travelers alike.

Paige shares why we should embrace the fact that we’re all tourists — and how we can be better at it. She gives examples of how tourism is working well for communities around the world and offers advice on how travel professionals can help open their customers’ minds. Plus, we have news about proposed restrictions on cruising in Alaska; a road tip about making sure passengers don’t get lost on tours; and a Hot Minute about the roles governments should — or shouldn’t — play in addressing overtourism.

Paige had lots of great insights on why it’s ok to be a tourist and how we can learn to be better tourists together. Here’s a sample:

“I don’t think the stigma around the word tourist is really helpful. I think if we own our identity as tourists, we can sort of give ourselves back the power to actually transform this massive thing we’re all part of. And we don’t see headlines about overtourism and think ‘Oh, that’s other people, that’s not me.’ … Remembering that we’re tourists is an important step we can take to owning all of the good and all of the bad that comes with tourism. And I hope it might serve as an inspiration.”

Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about Paige McClanahan and “The New Tourist” at paigemcclanahan.com.

Follow Paige McClanahan on Instagram.

Find the entire Gather and Go library and subscribe to the show here.

1:40 — Travel News: Alaska voters reject cruise ship restrictions

3:00 — Road Tip: Use location services to keep customers from getting lost

9:29 — Great podcast episodes to boost your travel business

13:10 — How Paige McClanahan became an international travel journalist

16:28 — The idea that sparked “The New Tourist”

19:25 — How entrepreneurs created the tourism industry

22:30 — The lifecycle of a tourism destination

24:55 — Destinations loving — and hating — tourism

30:33 — Why it’s ok to be a tourist

32:39 — What the new tourist looks like

35:20 — How travel professionals can help make better tourists

49:41 — Hot Minute: Should popular destinations put restrictions on tourism?

See the full interview with Kyle, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.

Thanks to our sponsor Coastal Mississippi for making this episode possible. Learn more about Coastal Mississippi’s travel experiences for groups at coastalmississippi.com.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

There are few places more spectacular than New England in autumn. But if you want to have a great fall foliage tour without being overwhelmed by crowds, you need to work with a local expert.

Carol Sullivan might be just the expert you’re working for. Her family operates White Mountain Hotel and Resort in North Conway, New Hampshire. But far from simply offering accommodations, this organization helps group travel leaders plan and package every element of their New England experiences. Carol joins this special bonus episode of the podcast to share her favorite New England activities and give travel planners tips to streamlining their New England travel experiences in any season.

Carol tells us about the cities, towns and mountain landscapes that make New England an essential American travel treasure. Plus, she explains how tour planners can arrange ground transportation, hotels, first-class dining and all their sightseeing activities with a single point of contact.

This episode is brought to you by the White Mountain Hotel and Resort.

Learn more about the White Mountain Hotel and Resort at whitemountainhotel.com.

Contact Jennifer in the White Mountain Hotel sales department at 800-533-6301.

2:23 — What exactly are the White Mountains of New Hampshire?

4:10 — Carol Sullivan’s journey from tour operator to hotelier

5:08 — Packing New England tour products

9:38 — Can’t-Miss New England travel experiences

11:59 — New England tours beyond fall foliage season

15:44 —A different approach to tour group dining

19:30 — Enjoying the White Mountain Hotel amenities

24:26 — Making the most of the New England outdoors

27:05 — Undiscovered treasures of New England

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

There are memorable trips, and then there are magical trips.

Sandra Weinacht believes that group tours should be magical — especially tours in Europe. As the founder of Inside Europe, she has been taking groups to her native Germany, as well as Italy, Ireland and other popular European destinations — for decades. She joins this episode of the podcast to share her secrets to planning magical European trips in 2025.

Sandra tells us how she leverages the economies of group trips to create once-in-a-lifetime experience for her customers. She share tips for navigating the economics of European travel in the midst of rising prices and gives tips on where travel beginners and travel pros should travel in Europe next year. Plus, we have news about new tech tools for U.S. passport holders; a road tip about falling asleep on international flights; and a Hot Minute about common meal-planning mistakes tour operators make.

Sandra had lots of great insights on how travel planners can build magical tour experiences, whether in Europe or in any other destination. Here’s a sample:

“We organize their concerts, we prepare exchanges, and that’s where the magic happens. And when you have a certain number of people, you can privatize things, and that’s when it gets unique. You can go into the Vatican museums on private tours. Occasionally, your group gets to sing in the Sistine Chapel…. If you privatize with a larger group, it becomes really affordable. You have more buying power and more opportunities, and you can give people a better deal, and make travel affordable for young people.”

Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:

Learn more about Inside Europe at inside-europe.com.

Follow Sandra Weinacht on Instagram and LinkedIn.

Email Sandra at [email protected].

Visit our Start Here page for growing your group travel organization.

2:11 — Travel News: U.S. passports can be added to Google Wallet

3:31 — Road Tip: Sleeping on transatlantic flights

10:19 — The ultimate resource for getting started in group travel

14:33 — How Sandra Weinacht went from sports journalism to group travel

20:14 — Creating magical moments for tour groups in Europe

25:28 — The most common misperceptions about European travel

27:14 — Tips for planning your first group trip to Europe

32:23 — Undiscovered treasures for Europe travel veterans

34:37 — How to manage the high prices of travel to Europe

37:42 — Are the wars in Ukraine and Israel affecting European travel demand?

51:41 — Hot Minute: Are you planning your group tour meals wrong?

Thanks to our sponsor Malta Tourism Authority for making this episode possible. Learn more about Malta’s travel experiences for groups at visitmalta.com.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

Are social media travel influencers full of hot air? Or do they represent legitimate opportunities for tourism professionals?

Shanay Braxton firmly believes influencers are a force for good in the travel industry. As the founder of Business in Travel, an agency that connects influencers with travel brands, she has seen firsthand how travel companies and content creators can partner for success. She joins this episode of the podcast to share how travel professionals can leverage influencer relationships to increase sales.

Shaney pulls back the curtain on the influencer economy and gives a behind-the-scenes look that goes into building a legitimate travel following. She shares ideas about how tour operators and content creators can work together and gives great advice for anyone running online advertising campaigns. Plus, we have news about falling revenues at theme parks; a road tip about make theme park visits work for your groups; and a Hot Minute about the problem of illegitimate pretenders in tourism.

Shanay had lots of insights about the the legitimacy of influencers and content, as well as the opportunities they present for tourism organizations. Here’s a sample:

“It’s starting to shift slowly, but there is the image that influencers just want to be seen. But it’s bigger than that. I call them travel marketing professionals, because they are. It takes a lot of time, money and resources to create content and educate people on travel. It’s more than just vanity. For a lot of people, it’s their passion and their legacy…. The misconception is around pay. A lot of people don’t understand what the return is for influencer marketing and how it can benefit them…. People undervalue it because they don’t know what it looks like on the back end.”

Plus, she had great things to say about:

Learn more about Business in Travel at businessintravel.co.

Follow Business in Travel on Instagram.

Find Shanay Braxton on LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook.

Find our 2025 Buyer’s Guide for the Group Travel Industry.

1:55 — Travel News: Theme park profits are falling

3:24 — Road Tip: Optimizing theme park visits for groups

9:05 — Your guide to issues facing group travel in 2025

14:42 — How Shanay Braxton became an advocate for travel influencers

18:57 — Are online influencers legitimate travel professionals?

24:32 — How much do travel influencers charge for sponsored campaigns?

28:02 — How to find well qualified travel influencers

29:31 — How tour operators and travel influencers can work together

33:17 — How to integrate influencer campaigns into your marketing plan

51:32 — Hot Minute: Pretenders and freeloaders in travel

Thanks to our sponsor Coastal Mississippi for making this episode possible. Learn more about Coastal Mississippi’s travel experiences for groups at coastalmississippi.com.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.

Is it possible to get travelers of every age group to travel together — and have fun doing it?

Kyle Campbell has proven that it is. A lifelong group travel planner and founder of Sudden Journeys, a boutique tour company, Kyle routinely leads trips that include baby boomers, Gen Xers, millennials and even Gen Z travelers. She joins this episode of the podcast to share how she builds and markets tours that appeal to every age group.

Kyle shares her insights about what each generation needs for successful trips; how intergenerational trips can be more fulfilling; and her secrets to creating deep and meaningful moments on the road. Plus, we have news about an online passport renewal system; a road tip about helping your travelers keep track of their passports; and a Hot Minute about a Thrillist article calling for the end of group trips.

Kyle had lots of insights about the different hopes, dreams, needs and aspirations that people of various generations bring to the group travel experience. Here’s a sample:

“[Retired people] are living out dreams they have had for decades. They have waited to travel. They’re actualizing these dreams, and they have a wealth of experience behind them in their life.

“People who are 19 to early 30s are extremely savvy with the technology, but they have a desire for the connection they have missed out on. They are worn out of working from home and online communities. They are craving connection.

“I’m having to keep all these needs in mind when I’m planning trips.”

Plus, she had great things to say about:

Learn more about Kyle Campbell and Sudden Journeys at mysuddenjourneys.com.

Follow Kyle Campbell on Instagram.

Apply to attend our OnSite Familiarization Tour in Louisiana’s Capital City Region.

Read “Why It’s Time to Let the Group Trip Die” at Thrillist.

1:37 — Travel News: Can you renew your passport online?

3:17 — Road Tip: Stop your travelers from losing their passports

9:48 — Join us for a FAM in Louisiana’s Capital City Region

15:09 — How Kyle Campbell learned to be a tour operator

24:28 — The secret to planning tours for all ages

27:57 — What different generations want from group travel experiences

32:46 — Creating meaningful moments on the road

35:48 — How travel can be a gateway to healing

53:09 — Hot Minute: Is it really time to “let the group trip die?”

See the full interview with Kyle, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.

Thanks to our sponsor Coastal Mississippi for making this episode possible. Learn more about Coastal Mississippi’s travel experiences for groups at coastalmississippi.com.

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who’s expertise can help make travel businesses better. You’ll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.

You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.