GenXtemporaneous

Get in Losers, we're going to the mall.  Not really.  In this episode, Marc and Kristina discuss meangirls and whether women are just catty, nasty people at heart who hate other women and do whatever they can to destroy perceived enemies, or are they conditioned to be that way?  We use the rumored beef between Kim Catrall and those other three ladies on Sex and the City as an example of the way women hit at other women.

Sex and the City Conflict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPz6pPXM-hg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-cO8UYOwcw&t=2469s

Froelich, Paula. Inside the mean-girls culture that destroyed ‘Sex and the City’ New York Post.  10/7/2017

Roundtree, Cheyenne. It Became Mean Girls’: Inside Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall’s Ugly ‘Sex and the City’ Feud. Daily Beast. 11/24/2021

Lang, Cady: A Timeline of the Sex and the City Fallout Between Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall

Relational Aggression

Jessica K. Padgett and Paul F. Tremblay University of Western Ontario, Gender Differences in Aggression See discussions, stats, and author profiles for this publication at: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/346488585

Barbara L. Brock The Barrier Within: Relational Aggression Among Women. University of Nebraska - Lincoln DigitalCommons@University of Nebraska - Lincoln Journal of Women in Educational Leadership

Ringrose, Jessica. A New Universal Mean Girl: Examining the Discursive Construction and Social Regulation of a New Feminine Pathology. Feminism Psychology 2006

Brock, Barbara L., "When Sisterly Support Changes to Sabotage" (2008). Journal of Women in Educational Leadership. 51. http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/jwel/51

Talbot, Margaret.  Girls Just Want to Be Mean.  New York Times Magazine. Feb 24, 2002

Kiner, Mikayla “It’s Time to Break the Cycle of Female Rivalry”. Harvard Business Review. April 14, 2020

In this episode Marc and Kristina discuss Sex Positivity, its roots in the clash between second and third-wave feminists, whether boundaries still apply, and we discuss sex positivity vis-a-vis an "Untold Story" episode called Sex for Sale that explores the wild and wonderful world of sex work. We will be posting an extension of this discussion on our Patreon.  Patreon will be launching The week of 2/28/22.  Please join us on social media @seriousproduce or @marceatspeach or @xtemporaneous2.  We also have a facebook group genxtemporaneous.  Email us at [email protected].

Sources

Sex For Sale (The Untold Story). Doug Glover Clint Lealos Directors. A&E. Apr 18, 2019.

Wilson, Margo and Martin Daly. The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Chattel. In, J.H. Barkow, L. Cosmides, J. Tooby, Eds. The Adapted Mind. Evolutionary psychology and the generation of culture. 1992. Oxford University Press. New York

Hills, Rachel. “What Every Generation Gets Wrong About Sex” TIME Magazine. December 2, 2014. https://time.com/3611781/sexual-revolution-revisited/

Sexual Revolution post world war I: https://ehistory.osu.edu/sites/ehistory.osu.edu/files/mmh/clash/NewWoman/Subnarratives/sexualrevolution.htm#:~:text=Sexual%20Revolution,growing%20public%20expression%20of%20sexuality.&text=Part%20of%20what%20made%20the,and%20where%20people%20consumed%20alcohol.

Shaitly, Shahesta. Is China's Mosuo tribe the world's last matriarchy? The Guardian. December 2010. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2010/dec/19/china-mosuo-tribe-matriarchy

Copeland, Simon. Equality and polyamory: why early humans weren't The Flintstones. The Guardian. May 2015 https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/may/19/equality-and-polyamory-why-early-humans-werent-the-flintstones

Sex, scandals and betrayals: Charles II and his court https://www.historyextra.com/period/stuart/sex-scandals-and-betrayals-charles-ii-and-his-court/

Uncredited Essay: Morals: The Second Sexual Revolution. Time. Friday, Jan. 24, 1964. http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,875692,00.html

Ahlin, Maria. Let’s Talk Porn: Ted Talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBTb71UzPmY ~3 minute time mark

The Puritans Really Loved Having Sex.  Associated Press for the New York Post. October 21, 2016 https://nypost.com/2016/10/21/the-puritans-really-loved-having-sex/

The Truth About Pleasure & Love in a Victorian Marriage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Kh5XEA1XA

Reagan Williams. Rape Culture: Ted Talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2DU7VTOmk @ 10:19 mark

Alexis Jones.  Locker Room Talk Says Who?: Ted Talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCA6EF3y23k @7 minute mark @8:14 mark 11:00 minutes

In this second part of our episode Marc and Kristina finish their discussion about Netflix's The Tinder Swindler with special guests Joann and Kelly. In this episode we learn Simon's fate and obsess over Ayleen, the one woman who was able to swindle the swindler.  We don't all share the same views on this subject, but we all agreed, the Tinder Swindler is fun watching and a great cautionary counterpoint to all the rom com programming we're seeing as we head into Valentine's Day.

Morris, Felicity.  The Tinder Swindler. 2/2/22. Streaming on Netflix.

Narcissist: Irresistible Charmer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Mi3fJdTMw&t=83s

In this episode two guests, Kelly and Joann, join Marc and Kristina to discuss The Tinder Swindler.  The overarching question we are asking is do the women involved in this situation bear any responsibility for what happened to them.  Kelly and Joann offer a lot of great opinion in this episode.  We don't all share the same views on this subject, but we all agreed, the Tinder Swindler is fun watching and a great cautionary counterpoint to all the rom com programming we're seeing as we head into Valentine's Day.

Morris, Felicity.  The Tinder Swindler. 2/2/22. Streaming on Netflix.

Narcissist: Irresistible Charmer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Mi3fJdTMw&t=83s

In this free sample of a genXtemporaneous after dark episode, Marc and Kristina do a mishmash of VH1's Pop up Video style trivia with an in depth discussion of Post Punk pioneers Siouxsie and the Banshees (Spellbound) and Adam Ant (Kings of the Wild Frontier). We also discuss The Cure (Let's go to Bed) and Bow Wow Wow (I Want Candy). You may not be aware of the connections between the four bands and their history as fans of punk turned punk and how they turned the corner into the Post Punk, MTV era. Going forward you will find the Video Thunderdome series exclusively on our Patreon (genXtemporaneous after dark -- which will be up and running on 2/1/2022, along with other special content for subscribers.  This podcast will remain ad free each week and we are grateful for your listen -- whether it is here or on Patreon.  

Sources

Kings of the Wild Frontier - Adam and the Ants - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hEn_rEDzp0

I Want Candy - Bow Wow Wow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoXVYSV4Xcs

Let's Go to Bed - The Cure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTpNJ67cXq4

Spellbound - Siouxsie and the Banshees - 

Anabella Lwin Interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1gAryoEhLA&t=45s

The Cure Interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXQiJYO2hU4&t=184s

The Queens of British Pop Excerpt (Siouxsie Sioux) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jxGcQJJl7w&t=477s

Adam Ant: The Madness of Prince Charming. Directed by John Moulson.  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jxGcQJJl7w&t=477s

In this episode Marc and Kristina talk about several of accidents that happened between 1965 and 1974 that led to the development of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope.  Without those things, we argue, the face of American cinema today would look radically different.  This is the third installment in our Accidental 80s arc and after this we'll be stepping away from that subject for a bit...but it will be back!  Please see sources for this episode below:

George Lucas: The Car Wreck That Changed His Life and Led Him to 'Star Wars' TIM OTT UPDATED:JUL 15, 2020ORIGINAL:JUL 31, 2019 https://www.biography.com/news/george-lucas-car-crash-star-warsx`

New Hollywood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hollywood

THE DREAM AND ITS MEN FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA AND GEORGE LUCAS IMMORTALIZE A LEGENDARY CAR AND ITS INVENTOR ON FILM. DONNA ROSENTHAL and Special to the News/Sun-Sentinel 1988 Donna Rosenthal

South Florida Sun-Sentinel August 14, 1988

White, Dana (2000). George Lucas. Lerner Publishing Group.

Pollock, Dale (June 1983). "A Man and His Empire: The Private Life of 'Star Wars' Creator George Lucas". Life: 85–86.

Empire of Dreams: The Story of the 'Star Wars' Trilogyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ux9jn1tRU

George Lucas on the impact of Star Wars with Christopher Nolan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VRYKlnEP7o

This is the second in our Accidental 80s arc.  In this episode we dig into the accident that changed the face of 80s cable tv and countless tweens' and teens' lives.  We discuss the history of video and MTV, our favorite (and least favorite) videos, and the dollar that made it all possible.

Sources

Biography: I want my MTV Directed by  Patrick Waldrop, Tyler Measom. A&E 2019.

Tannebaum, Rob and Craig Marks.  I Want My MTV: The Uncensored Story of the Music Video Revolution. Penguin, 2011

The Buggles: Video Killed the Radio Star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8r-tXRLazs

MTV Original opening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvGiRElg3nQ 

Beavis and Butthead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRMOOIbRq7k

Simon LeBon on Video and Duran Duran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKN1T5YT_cs

Van Halen: Hot For Teacher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M4_Ommfvv0

Ultravox: Reap the Wild Wind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NevzImTG_U0

Men Without Hats: Safety Dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nft1OVNLM7A

David Bowie Mark Goodman Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGiVzIr8Qg

1983 Special Report: MTV Discriminates Against Black Artists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVGRuHIH6b8

I want my MTV promos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZSWdh17l0

Honeydrippers: Sea of Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoUzzFXuVU

Billy Squier Rock Me Tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhnEpg9VMY8

Hall and Oates Private Eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsntlJZ9h1U

J. Geils Band: Centerfold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEf8Uj_Yc7U

This is the first in an arc discussing the "accidental 80s".  We want to dig into the new year with a bit of exploration of some of the defining genX moments or trends and discuss how they happened only by accident.  

In this episode Marc shares his commercial real estate expertise to expose the tax accident that led to the mid-century Mall boom in America that continued to an apex during the 1980s.  We also take a trip down memory lane and describe our personal mall experiences: the clothes, the hair, the video arcade, and (for Kristina) the boys! Finally ending up with a converstion about the contributing factors that are leading to the death of malls across the US.  

Sources

Kinniburgh, Hugh. Mall City. Documentary. 1983 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmWTHCHHzZY&t=546s

The Gap Commercial 1981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCEBoOy0ne8

Why US Malls are Disappearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JiP-j2FwM

What does The Godfather, Goodfellas, L.A. Confidential, Bridget Jones' Diary, Sleepless in Seattle, Love, Actually, Die Hard, Trading Places and Gremlins all have in common? Give this episode a listen to find out.  We are talking about best weather, best presents, best Christmas movie, the Christmas story and Linus.  There has to be Linus.