Nick and Jessa share their all time favorite commentary on how the news sometimes handles (or is forced to handle) cases, and announce their next "deep dive" case, which was chosen as a tribute to our friend Chelsea Cox, writer/producer of the podcast Deliberations.

It's gonna be a big one, folks.

Jessa and Nick conclude their conversation about the Jordan Johnson trial.

Jessa & Nick cover the prosecution of the Johnson case.

Jessa and Nick finish their discussion of the disciplinary hearings against Jordan Johnson and then tackle pre-trial litigation.

Jessa & Nick sidebar to discuss Title IX disciplinary hearings.

Nick and Jessa begin their coverage of the Jordan Johnson university disciplinary hearings and trial.

Jessa and Nick talk affirmative consent, confusing jury verdicts, and the tension between the presumption of innocence and wanting to support victims/survivors of violence.  Chelsea Cox, the brilliant host of Deliberations Podcast guests and talks about her motivations for starting the compelling audio drama and what we can expect in Season 2\.

Jessa and Nick talk about the lessons to be learned from the McMartin case, and whether or not those lessons have "stuck" in the minds of experts, prosecutors, and the media.

Jessa and Nick discuss the witness testimony for both the prosecution and defense in the McMartin Preschool trials.

Jessa and Nick finish the pre-trial portion of the McMartin Preschool cases, and end their discussion with the opening statements in the first trial.