Nick and Jessa continue with the R. Kelly saga and (finally) get to start talking about the trial.

Nate Otis, the third partner at the island of misfit toys that is Nicholson, Gansner & Otis, S.C. talks about the federal sentencing guidelines and how rarely Jessa is on time to work.

Jessa answers some additional listener questions covering topics like weird laws, how she came to be a defense attorney, and miscellaneous other inquiries.

Jessa and Nick continue to tackle the never-ending timeline of allegations of R.Kelly's troubling behavior with underage girls.

Jessa tackles a few of the listener questions she and Nick have received in a perhaps uncharacteristically somber way, as her day sucked. Hopefully having extra content for holiday travel makes everyone else's day suck a little bit less.

Strap in, everybody. This is about to be the longest timeline EVER. Nick & Jessa start to unpack the wild and *probably* illegal world of R.Kelly.

*Disclaimer: R.Kelly has never been convicted of a sex crime. When we say "probably", we aren't basing that on, like, the law and stuff.

Jessa and Nick talk child pornography, child erotica, the sex offender registry, and the age of consent.

The very first attempt at Getting Off -- a podcast run by two criminal defense attorneys (we are business partners and close friends) designed to talk about law, crime, trials, evidence, criminal justice policy issues, and how the world of the courtroom is represented in popular culture. This is our test/brief introduction. Please stick with us as we figure out how to do this, it'll be sort of fun, we promise.