NOTE: Please make sure to also listen to the latest podcasts episodes. The first episodes provide some very good background information too. This is a very dynamic situation and we are consistently staying about 3-7 days ahead of other media outlets at this point. Sorry that this episode is a little rough around the edges, we are new to podcasting and just trying to get way out in front of this outbreak, and this seemed the best way to connect with our huge network of family, friends, and others that are on top of this. Each episode is getting consistenly better and more professional in production quality.

Gilman and Jackie discuss the current state of the corona virus COVID-19 , what to expect, and why vaccination will probably take longer than people thing to create.