Immigration has been a contentious topic in the United States for a few years now. However, the dialogue has, for some time, focused on legal vs. illegal immigration. In very recent years, the focus has shifted not only to criminalizing illegal immigration into the United States but also curtailing legal migration altogether. We see this in the current discussion around asylum seekers, especially those who are migrating from Central America trying to escape horrid conditions. Our next guest is Jorge Valencia. Jorge is the Mexico correspondent from KJZZ Phoenix. He joined the station in August 2016 as it's first senior field correspondent based in Mexico City. His reporting focuses on the business and economics between Arizona and Mexico. He has been the recipient of multiple journalism awards for his work in radio and in newspapers.  Jorge has seen first-hand the hardships that asylum seekers on our Southern border have to face to migrate into the United States. Since my interview with Jorge, two more migrant kids, one of them only 2½-year-old, died after crossing the border, becoming five minors known to have died after being detained by the Border Patrol since December.