When Jon Trigg was sent to Northern Ireland as a young officer, he was going to war. It wasn’t the Troubles or a conflict but a war.

Trigg served his tour of duty in 1993 and moved on, but, unusually he returned, not as a soldier but as a writer.

In an extraordinary conversation today, Jon Trigg talks to Joe and Dion about his new book on the IRA in Derry. Joe and Jon speak frankly, and sometimes with tension, about the conflict, but also recall the figures from the IRA they both knew.

He tells of his difficulty in getting former IRA men to trust him and where they found common ground. 

Jon recalls too the decisions that led to the Paratroopers moving into Derry on Bloody Sunday and the massacre that followed.

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