In this episode Alan rambles about Primordial's appearance at the online European Metal Festival Alliance the previous weekend, what no live industry means for crew, the caravan of summer festival experiences. How an odd group of misfits on the fringes of society are starting to march through Dublin, what that might mean. Finishing with a look at what the underground meant back in the day, fanzines, tape trading, starting a band and being active in your scene and what the word can mean in the modern age.

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