Going There with Jen

By Jen Vertanen

What's Going There with Jen about?

Join Emotional Baggage Expert and Coach Jen Vertanen and her guests each week as they explore tough topics through unfiltered, raw, and oftentimes hilarious conversations about the things that make us human. No topic off-limits; no story too much.

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Going There with Jen episodes:

12.10.2020
065: Sarah Von Bargen of Yes and Yes on What Going Face Down In A Bowl Of Pizza Rolls Is Trying To Tell You + What That Has To Do With Dancing with Richard Simmons
Join Sarah Von Bargen from Yes and Yes and me as we talk about how you can do everything right and follow all the rules and still find yourself on a life's journey full of plot twists and turns. We chat...
08.27.2020
064: Susan Shehata on The Intersections of Race, Culture, and Trauma
Join Susan Shehata and me as we chat about the intersections of race, culture, and trauma. The first half of this episode has us talking about the many healing modalities Susan employs including space work, breathwork, and core story work in...
06.10.2020
063: Paula Jenkins on How To Find Joy Even When Life Is Hella Hard
Join Paula Jenkins and me to discuss how we all go through hard times but it’s finding your way through it and to the other side – knowing you will battle your way out of it and that you’re going...
05.27.2020
062: Eunice Brownlee on Living With Trauma But More Importantly, Living With Hope And The Power Of Sharing Our Stories
cw: trauma, abuse including that of a minor We can all agree…trauma sucks. And while we all wished it was different…trauma happens far more often than many of us even know. If you’ve experienced trauma, you get the funny ways...
05.20.2020
061: Lisa Orkin on Running Away From Success and Finding Motivation When It's Hard To Get Out Of Bed
How do you find motivation when it’s hard to get out of the bed and not just because the bed is super cozy with luxuriously soft sheets and a down comforter that’s just the right weight – you know –...
05.13.2020
060: Dawn Duncan on Changing Your Life One Tiny Step At A Time and Telling Our Stories Without Shame
cw: drug use, suicide With her marriage in shambles and finding herself in jail one night next to prostitutes and hardcore criminals, Dawn Duncan decided to turn her life around and she started with small changes that over time, led...
05.06.2020
059: Megan Dowd on Sharing Our Vulnerability With Healthy Boundaries, The Dangers of Toxic Positivity, and The Importance of Rage Walks to Help Manage Her Depression
Megan Dowd calls herself a compassionate hardass and I can soooo relate. She’s also master of funny faces, business therapist for neurodiverse run businesses, and all around delightful human being. Megan and I talk about the importance of sharing our...
04.29.2020
058: Jen Louden on How to Listen to Your Own Why Bother and Letting Desire Lead the Way
Listen in as Jen Louden and I talk about her personal stories with why bother, how a failed book led to her latest book, identifying your minimum self-care list (especially important during this pandemic), how this question can show up...
04.22.2020
057: Finding Your New Normal Within The Grief and Holding Space for the Complexities and Contradictions That Is Life
Life happens in the in-between. In-between sadness can be laughter. In-between heaviness, there can be light. And no one knows that more than my guest, Brandy Morris. Brandy set about on her Year of Contrast as she both mourned the...
04.16.2020
056: Doña Bumgarner on Finding Yourself When You Can't Quit Motherhood and Trusting Your Gut Even When You Have No Clue What You're Doing
Are you a mom and feel like a part of you is missing? That you’re going through the motions and things look good but it all feels a bit empty? Then this episode is for you and I chose it...
04.15.2020
Jen Goes There On Her 50th
Join me on my 50th birthday (4/15/20) as I share my top 5 lessons learned in half a century. Lord I'm old lol.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
04.08.2020
055: Jen Pavich on Living Five Lives, Homeless and Pregnant at 19, and Getting the Patriarchy Out of Our Heads
Like me, Jen Pavich became a mom before she was ready and like me, Jen had some fairly traumatic events in her life that molded and shaped her. Pile on top of that a bout of homelessness, societal and patriarchal...
04.01.2020
054: Audrey Holst on How To Tell If Burnout Is Nipping At Your Heels and What To Do About It Because You Are NOT Fine
Audrey Holst has traveled through a myriad of work environments including dog walker, yoga instructor, owned a yoga studio, corporate lackey, and it didn’t matter what the job or environment was…there was the element of burnout – so much so...
03.25.2020
053: Amy Zellmer on Recovery from a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) and Why You Shouldn't Give Up Even When the Doctors Say This Is the Best It Will Get
It was a random day in February 2014 and Amy Zellmer found herself doing something she does multiple times a day – taking her (so adorable!!!) pup, Pixxie, outside for a bio break. Only this day would change the rest...
12.17.2018
052: Michelle Ward Talks Surviving Boob Cancer, Fertility Issues, and Empowering Yourself to Start Your Dream Business
Michelle Ward is perhaps one of the most inspiring guests I’ve ever had on the show–and this isn’t hyperbole. I mean…I have the coolest off-the-cuff conversations with people so you know this one is good! Michelle is a two-time breast...
12.08.2018
051: Christine Meyer on Coaching, Empowerment, and Self-Fulfillment
Do you believe that you are the creator of your reality? Join me today in a conversation with esteemed life coach Christine Meyer as we delve into how our own perceptions influence our experiences in life. Christine helps successful, influential,...
12.03.2018
050: Rachel Allen on Loss, Relationships, and Finding Her True Identity Through Life’s Hardships
For my fiftieth episode of Going There, I had the utmost pleasure of journeying with Rachel Allen, a word wizard who overcame many of life’s biggest challenges and discovered herself in all of her shining glory at the end of...
11.27.2018
049: Mary Ann Clements Discusses Non-Profit Work, Burnout, and Why Self-Care is Crucial For Both People and Professionals
Mary Ann Clements once worked as the CEO of “AbleChild Africa” and has decades of experience in developing charities and programs meant to make a positive difference in lives all around the world. However, even with all of her great...
11.20.2018
048: Womanhood, Aging, and Healing with Confidence Coach Liz Applegate
Have you ever woken up and realized that you spent your entire life trying to fit into a label that you aren’t? Do you feel guilt over not feeling close to somebody that you think you should? Us too! Join...
11.12.2018
047: Leslie Peters on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) and Their Impact on Your Adult Life and How Awareness and Resilience Can Heal You
In today’s ridiculously deep, emotional episode, you will learn why it’s important to teach your children those words like a mantra. Listen in as I learn about ACE or Adverse Childhood Experiences with RN, Speaker, and fellow compassionate, Leslie Peters....
11.05.2018
046: Tyler McCall talks Depression, Authenticity, and Owning Who You Are
Today, I have an absolutely transcendent conversation with Instagram expert, Tyler J. McCall about the deep stuff: depression, authenticity, and finding belonging by owning who you are and your reaction(s) to the shit that happens in life. And, boy, there’s...
10.29.2018
045: Becca Piastrelli and How to Find Belonging, Identity, and Sisterhood in the Age of Loneliness
What's the fear in you?Today, I delve deep into the innermost caves of identity, womanhood, and loneliness with creativity “coach” and fellow kindred spirit, Becca Piastrelli.Seriously, get ready to explore what makes you uncomfortable– dealing with isolation, oppressive culture(s) and/or ancestral roots,...
10.22.2018
044: Cultivate Your Confidence with Cinamon Laughten: Building Self-Confidence and Self-Love Through Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT)
"Certainty minus comparison equals confidence" - Cinamon Laughten, Badass Confidence CultivatorJoin me today as I talk with the wonderful and brilliantly-named Cinamon Laughten, a phenomenal confidence coach and rapid transformational therapist (RTT)!Together, we discover the value of deep, powerful self-love...
10.15.2018
043: Take a Horseback Ride with Dominique Rondeau for Mental Health, Spiritual Healing, and Some Equine Therapy
How does that saying go? Something about falling off a horse and getting right back on again? CUE SYMBOLISM!!Today, join me on horseback as I ride off into the “self-care sunset” with equine therapy heroine Dominique Rondeau!Life can be a...
10.09.2018
042: Put Your Knives Down and Make Peace with Your Plate; Ali Shapiro on Calling a Truce with Food
We all know that diets don't work long-term, or do we?Today, I have the honor and privilege of speaking with holistic nutritionist and integrated health coach, Ali Shapiro (MSOD, HCCH), who survived childhood cancer, health, and weight issues and now...
10.01.2018
041: Spiritual and Emotional Healing in a BITCH-SLAP: Gwynne Montgomery Talks Toxic Patterns, CPTSD, and Putting in the Work to Transform Your Life
Do you feel like you're in a place in your life where you need a good, honest bitch slap for your soul?How many times do you ask yourself, “Why? Why am I here?”Listen in and hear the marvelous sound of...
09.24.2018
040: Bridget Pilloud, Pet Psychic, Practicing Human, and How Her Intuition Can Help Heal Your Relationship With Your Pet
Do you ever wonder what your pet is thinking or want to tell a fly to eff off?ME TOO!!Today I had an absolutely mind-boggling and eye-opening conversation with Bridget Pilloud, Pet Psychic and practicing human. This is possibly one of...
09.17.2018
039: Maureen Clancy (LCSW & EMDR) on Storming Through the Gates of Your Life and Finding the Right Therapist to Help Along the Way
If your therapist isn't working for you, ditch 'em and find a better one!Today I had the pleasure of discussing the importance of finding the right therapist to deal with life’s crazy moments with licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), sensitive...
09.10.2018
038: Darla Antoine on Healing Your Spirit and Finding Yourself Through Food, Cultural Discovery, and Diving Deep Into Your Own Ancestry
What if discovering your past could help you and your family heal together?Spiritual worker, ancestral activist, and coach of the Sacred Domestic Arts complete with an MA in Intercultural Communication, Darla Antoine answers this deep spiritual question and more in...
09.03.2018
037: Beautifully Broken with Jo Casey - Being a Business Coach While Learning to Confront, Live With, and Even Grow With Anxiety, Depression, and Mental Health Issues
Do you suffer from “tightly-wound woman syndrome?” If so - hell yeah! - and you are in great company!Listen in on my conversation with the amazing Jo Casey. Jo is a fierce, feminist business coach determined to live her best...
08.27.2018
036: Navigating Sexuality When You're on the Asexual Spectrum, Everyone Can Benefit from Therapy, and Being Diagnosed with Autism as an Adult with Olivia James
On this week's #goingtherewithjen, I have a fly-on-the-wall conversation with fellow podcaster and super cool human being, Olivia James.Listen in as I very awkwardly and Olivia very graciously talk about languaging around autism and asexuality, her path to an autistic...
08.20.2018
035: Law of Attraction Fuckery, Drinking the Natural Birth Kool-Aid Until It Goes to Shit (literally), and Learning to Do No Harm as a Spiritual White Woman with Anna Holden
You know what I love? Unicorns (listen to the episode to hear why this is relevant).Know what else I love? Anna Holden. Anna is magical, highly sensitive, clairvoyant, and her filters are about as good as mine which means non-existent....
08.13.2018
034: Numbing To the Point of Almost Dying, Finding Yourself Surprisingly Alone, and Getting Over Your Fears to Heal with Plant Medicine with Shanda Catrice
MEET SHANDAShanda Catrice is a fiercely compassionate healer and spiritual mentor who combines practical wisdom with sacred healing arts to guide women through inner transformation. Her work is centered around the integration of the whole self, through radical love and raw authenticity.Shanda encourages women...
08.06.2018
033: Just Say No to People Pleasing, You Have a Choice - Victim or Victor, and Learning to Put Yourself First Because Survival with Heather Thorkelson
Meet HeatherHeather Thorkelson is a coach who works with entrepreneurs to grow their impact and visibility while growing their bottom line. She has been location independent for 7 years and runs her businesses from all over the world, including, on occasion,...
07.30.2018
032: Tantric Bodyworker, Biblical Erotica Author, and All-around Fascinating Human, Matt Stillman
Meet Matt StillmanMatt is probably the most fascinating person I know and I don’t say that lightly because…as you’re well aware…ALL of my guests are pretty damn fascinating.But Matt? He’s extra super-duper rare. In a very tidy nutshell which is hard to...
07.20.2018
031: God Does Not Give a Shit About Your Thigh Gap, Getting Out of the Boxes We've Allowed Others to Put Us In, and Living with Depression with Kristen Kalp
Meet KristenKristen Kalp helps creative humans connect to their truest selves through writing, breathwork, books, and business coaching. Join the free F*ck Yah club for free books, chapters, classes, and goodies here.Listen in as we talk about:Kristen's stories of living with depression including the silver liningsThe reasons behind...
07.15.2018
Jen Unfiltered 002: Living in the Paradox Between Amazing and Shitty
Life has been SO GOOD in so many and SO SHITTY in a few others. But that's how I love my life...living in the paradoxes and in-betweens.Listen in as I share what's been going on (super sick mom, super suicidal...
05.16.2018
030: Tanya Markul on The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots a
Meet Tanya“I am a child of extremes, raised with poison, steeped in possibility between an orchard and giant maple trees, drawn to flowers, and re-birthed by a frigid, roaring sea.” —Thug UnicornTanya Markul’s path is one of the poetess, intuitive and...
05.16.2018
030: The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots and Sparkly Shit)
Meet Tanya “I am a child of extremes, raised with poison, steeped in possibility between an orchard and giant maple trees, drawn to flowers, and re-birthed by a frigid, roaring sea.” —Thug Unicorn Tanya Markul’s path is one of the...
05.16.2018
030: The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots and Sparkly Shit)
Meet Tanya “I am a child of extremes, raised with poison, steeped in possibility between an orchard and giant maple trees, drawn to flowers, and re-birthed by a frigid, roaring sea.” —Thug Unicorn Tanya Markul’s path is one of the poetess,...
05.09.2018
029: Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places, Bathroom Floor Moments, and the Facade(s) of Perfection with Veronica Grant
Veronica Grant is a Love-Life Coach for smart, successful women who feel like they have it all except love, find it. She believes finding real love isn’t about a great profile, a snazzy text, or pleasing men. It’s about stepping into...
05.02.2018
028: How Tight Pants Became a Personal Growth Message, Doing All the Right Things in Life and Still Getting Sick, and the Shadow Side of Responsibility in Relationships with Kate Courageous
"Like - this is my life and I got shit to do...like good shit to do. Good, awesome, amazing things that I'm excited to do and I'm doing them and that's that." ~ Kate Courageous Meet KateKate Swoboda is creator...
04.25.2018
027: The Good and Not-So-Good of Being an Altruistic Overachiever, Taming the Downright Vicious Inner Critic and Healing Through Chinese Elements with Brodie Welch
Meet BrodieBrodie Welch is a Licensed Acupuncturist, board-certified herbalist, Chinese Medicine expert, group coach, and self-care strategist. She’s the founder of Life in Balance Acupuncture in Corvallis, Oregon, where she has been treating patients since 2003.In addition to her clinical...
04.18.2018
026: When Not Good Enough is the Theme of Your Life, Beating Yourself Up to Be Perfect Masks as Success, and the Shame of Questioning if You Love Your Child (and of course you do) with Kelly Covert
My fave moments from this conversation:Understanding our worthiness is there all along...it doesn't grow bigger or diminish and we don't need to try harder.In healing ourselves, we are able to help others heal.When Kelly felt that failing at being a...
04.11.2018
025: Why It's Not About the Weight, Feeling Emotionally Safe in the World, and the Freedom of Realizing Your Childhood Trauma Was NOT Your Fault with Joanna Kessling
Meet JoannaHi. I'm Joanna. I'm so glad you're here. Those closest to me call me Jo. I'm a supportive coach and change doula, living and working in Charlottesville, Virginia. I love this special town and feel fortunate to call it...
04.06.2018
024: Sexual Abuse Advocacy, Forgiving The Abuser (Who Was Also Abused), and Her Point of No Return with Keira Poulsen
Meet KeiraI am Keira Poulsen.First and foremost I am a mother to 5 beautiful kids; 4 boys and 1 girl.I am a life coach for women. I help women bring to life their passions and accomplish their goals and dreams....
03.28.2018
023: Growing Up Divorced, Surviving By Putting Relationships into Boxes (Like the Difficult One With Your Mom), and Owning Your Expectations with Melanie Scroggins
in Melanie's own words...The best conversations often happen over coffee. Melanie Scroggins is the host and producer of the Over Coffee podcast where she digs deep to uncover helpful insights for living life more intentionally.Each episode, Melanie invites inspiring people...
03.21.2018
022: Miscarriage, Messy Roads to Motherhood, Being a Fertile Myrtle, and Diminishing Our Own Pain with Sarah Aschkenas
In Sarah's Own Words...Sarah is a wife, mama, and podcaster who loves stories. The kind of stories that you share over a cup of coffee, on a comfy couch, or with a box of tissues. She is the host of...
03.14.2018
021: Fat Activism, Dancing the Tango Until Someone Said a Shitty Comment, and the Importance of Sharing Our Stories Like the Horrors of Breastfeeding with Tiana Dodson
in Tiana’s own words…Tiana Dodson is a fat activist and health coach who runs One Beautiful Yes, where she helps people in big bodies find their healthy. (Body shaming, intentional weight loss, and self-hatred not included.) If she could only ever...
03.07.2018
020: Healing from Sexual Abuse, Finding Love, and Intimacy with Tasha Tilley
IN TASHA'S OWN WORDSI am a compassionate woman with a passion for wisdom, creativity and unconditional love. My past has been dark, I lived through eight years of debilitating child sexual abuse, violence and carried around a deeply wounded heart. My faith has been strong. It...

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Going There with Jen episodes:

065: Sarah Von Bargen of Yes and Yes on What Going Face Down In A Bowl Of Pizza Rolls Is Trying To Tell You + What That Has To Do With Dancing with Richard Simmons

064: Susan Shehata on The Intersections of Race, Culture, and Trauma

063: Paula Jenkins on How To Find Joy Even When Life Is Hella Hard

062: Eunice Brownlee on Living With Trauma But More Importantly, Living With Hope And The Power Of Sharing Our Stories

061: Lisa Orkin on Running Away From Success and Finding Motivation When It's Hard To Get Out Of Bed

060: Dawn Duncan on Changing Your Life One Tiny Step At A Time and Telling Our Stories Without Shame

059: Megan Dowd on Sharing Our Vulnerability With Healthy Boundaries, The Dangers of Toxic Positivity, and The Importance of Rage Walks to Help Manage Her Depression

058: Jen Louden on How to Listen to Your Own Why Bother and Letting Desire Lead the Way

057: Finding Your New Normal Within The Grief and Holding Space for the Complexities and Contradictions That Is Life

056: Doña Bumgarner on Finding Yourself When You Can't Quit Motherhood and Trusting Your Gut Even When You Have No Clue What You're Doing

Jen Goes There On Her 50th

055: Jen Pavich on Living Five Lives, Homeless and Pregnant at 19, and Getting the Patriarchy Out of Our Heads

054: Audrey Holst on How To Tell If Burnout Is Nipping At Your Heels and What To Do About It Because You Are NOT Fine

053: Amy Zellmer on Recovery from a Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) and Why You Shouldn't Give Up Even When the Doctors Say This Is the Best It Will Get

052: Michelle Ward Talks Surviving Boob Cancer, Fertility Issues, and Empowering Yourself to Start Your Dream Business

051: Christine Meyer on Coaching, Empowerment, and Self-Fulfillment

050: Rachel Allen on Loss, Relationships, and Finding Her True Identity Through Life’s Hardships

049: Mary Ann Clements Discusses Non-Profit Work, Burnout, and Why Self-Care is Crucial For Both People and Professionals

048: Womanhood, Aging, and Healing with Confidence Coach Liz Applegate

047: Leslie Peters on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) and Their Impact on Your Adult Life and How Awareness and Resilience Can Heal You

046: Tyler McCall talks Depression, Authenticity, and Owning Who You Are

045: Becca Piastrelli and How to Find Belonging, Identity, and Sisterhood in the Age of Loneliness

044: Cultivate Your Confidence with Cinamon Laughten: Building Self-Confidence and Self-Love Through Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT)

043: Take a Horseback Ride with Dominique Rondeau for Mental Health, Spiritual Healing, and Some Equine Therapy

042: Put Your Knives Down and Make Peace with Your Plate; Ali Shapiro on Calling a Truce with Food

041: Spiritual and Emotional Healing in a BITCH-SLAP: Gwynne Montgomery Talks Toxic Patterns, CPTSD, and Putting in the Work to Transform Your Life

040: Bridget Pilloud, Pet Psychic, Practicing Human, and How Her Intuition Can Help Heal Your Relationship With Your Pet

039: Maureen Clancy (LCSW & EMDR) on Storming Through the Gates of Your Life and Finding the Right Therapist to Help Along the Way

038: Darla Antoine on Healing Your Spirit and Finding Yourself Through Food, Cultural Discovery, and Diving Deep Into Your Own Ancestry

037: Beautifully Broken with Jo Casey - Being a Business Coach While Learning to Confront, Live With, and Even Grow With Anxiety, Depression, and Mental Health Issues

036: Navigating Sexuality When You're on the Asexual Spectrum, Everyone Can Benefit from Therapy, and Being Diagnosed with Autism as an Adult with Olivia James

035: Law of Attraction Fuckery, Drinking the Natural Birth Kool-Aid Until It Goes to Shit (literally), and Learning to Do No Harm as a Spiritual White Woman with Anna Holden

034: Numbing To the Point of Almost Dying, Finding Yourself Surprisingly Alone, and Getting Over Your Fears to Heal with Plant Medicine with Shanda Catrice

033: Just Say No to People Pleasing, You Have a Choice - Victim or Victor, and Learning to Put Yourself First Because Survival with Heather Thorkelson

032: Tantric Bodyworker, Biblical Erotica Author, and All-around Fascinating Human, Matt Stillman

031: God Does Not Give a Shit About Your Thigh Gap, Getting Out of the Boxes We've Allowed Others to Put Us In, and Living with Depression with Kristen Kalp

Jen Unfiltered 002: Living in the Paradox Between Amazing and Shitty

030: Tanya Markul on The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots a

030: The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots and Sparkly Shit)

030: The Journey of Self-Healing Since the Womb, Learning to Create a Safe Space, a Home, Within Yourself, and the Godawful Messiness of Healing (HINT: It’s Not Unicorns and Chariots and Sparkly Shit)

029: Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places, Bathroom Floor Moments, and the Facade(s) of Perfection with Veronica Grant

028: How Tight Pants Became a Personal Growth Message, Doing All the Right Things in Life and Still Getting Sick, and the Shadow Side of Responsibility in Relationships with Kate Courageous

027: The Good and Not-So-Good of Being an Altruistic Overachiever, Taming the Downright Vicious Inner Critic and Healing Through Chinese Elements with Brodie Welch

026: When Not Good Enough is the Theme of Your Life, Beating Yourself Up to Be Perfect Masks as Success, and the Shame of Questioning if You Love Your Child (and of course you do) with Kelly Covert

025: Why It's Not About the Weight, Feeling Emotionally Safe in the World, and the Freedom of Realizing Your Childhood Trauma Was NOT Your Fault with Joanna Kessling

024: Sexual Abuse Advocacy, Forgiving The Abuser (Who Was Also Abused), and Her Point of No Return with Keira Poulsen

023: Growing Up Divorced, Surviving By Putting Relationships into Boxes (Like the Difficult One With Your Mom), and Owning Your Expectations with Melanie Scroggins

022: Miscarriage, Messy Roads to Motherhood, Being a Fertile Myrtle, and Diminishing Our Own Pain with Sarah Aschkenas

021: Fat Activism, Dancing the Tango Until Someone Said a Shitty Comment, and the Importance of Sharing Our Stories Like the Horrors of Breastfeeding with Tiana Dodson

020: Healing from Sexual Abuse, Finding Love, and Intimacy with Tasha Tilley

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