Continuing our conversation from the previous episode, we discuss the bars versus taprooms and why the current era bar needs to evolve. Michael sings foaming and Josh edits out his coughing.

After a long hiatus, Josh and Michael are back and talking about the owner of the Flying Saucer's commentary on Beer to Go. Josh messed up the recording and Michael sings a song.

Matt and Nate from Celestial Beerworks to chat about the new brewery, consistent branding and cool beers. Michael hates Christmas and Josh swears.

Friend of the show Kasey comes to chat about wine, similarities between been and wine, and proves Josh and Michael know nothing about it. Michael says "audio journey" and Josh makes a fart noise.

Josh and Michael talk Celestial Beerworks and Cowtown Brewing's opening and elevating the level of quality and uniqueness through growth beyond the early adopter phase, as brewers move to "big time." Michael asks that you listen to a band and Josh cried once.

In part two, we discuss brewers creating ceilings with their abilities, offerings and directions, plus chat about how good branding and package design effects a consumers choice in purchasing a beer. Michael is red hot and Josh distills something.

Turning Point Brewery returns to the podcast with JP and James to discuss opening a Mid-cities DFW brewery, hazy IPA's at GABF and more. In our loudest episode ever (thanks James), Michael makes an interesting laugh noise and Josh plants a flag in the sand.

Michael and Josh discuss a few grievances with the beer industry. Gentrification, sexualization and more come up. Michael makes a biscuit joke and Josh talks about Roadhouse.

It's a two guest show! Kelly, owner of New Braunfels Brewing and Jeff, co-owner of Argus Cidery, join us to chat about beer, wine, ciders and other silly questions. Michael says quaffing and Josh brings up New Mexico.