When Hobbs was elected in 2022, she pledged to bring sanity over chaos. But the Democratic governor has tried to navigate working opposite a Republican-controlled Legislature over the last three years.

This year's session was no exception. Hobbs vetoed 174 bills this year, a new single-year record that surpasses her 143 vetoes in 2023.

But her vetoes aren't the full story, even if they are record-breaking. She also signed 265 bills into law this year.

This week on The Gaggle, a weekly politics podcast, host Mary Jo Pitzl and guest host Stacey Barchenger are joined by Gov. Hobbs in-studio for a sit-down interview.

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Guests: ⁠⁠ Governor Katie Hobbs

Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Mary Jo Pitzl⁠⁠⁠⁠, Stacey Barchenger⁠

Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Amanda Luberto⁠

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