North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum talks with Hugh about his new presidential campaign. He begins by deflecting a question about former President Trump and the pardon power, but he knows about the nuclear triad. Plus, Sarah Bedford on House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jordan's whistleblower on the Mar-a-Lago raid. Ben Domenech on the Trump indictment, and of course it's Friday, so Sonny Bunch is onboard, talking "The Flash" and "Elementals."

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