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This week, your favorite heretical quartet—Abish, Moroni, aaaAAAaa, and Abigail—take on the juicy chaos of D&C 98, the revelation where Joseph Smith tells the Saints to turn the other cheek… after they’ve already been tarred, feathered, and handed eviction notices in Jackson County. As always, the GASP crew isn’t here to make excuses for 1830s colonizer drama, but they will unpack the religious gaslighting behind it all.

We kick things off with Abish introducing the week’s themed cocktail, the Tarred and Feathered: a dangerously delicious coffee liqueur dessert drink with iced mocha, chocolate syrup, whipped cream, and shaved coconut (a.k.a. edible feathers). Think Starbucks meets early American mob violence. It pairs surprisingly well with carne asada fries and midweek existential crises.

Scriptures

Moroni tackles the scrippies with classic eye-roll energy, diving into the context of D&C 98 and its suspiciously well-timed revelation from 900 miles away. He breaks down the events in Missouri, the Saints’ escalating beef with the locals, and whether Joseph’s “divine knowledge” maybe came from… a newspaper? He also calls out the vague references to tar and feathering that the text definitely doesn’t name names on. Ghostwriting from God? We’re skeptical.

Church Teachings

aaaAAAaa reads directly from a Church manual about the “causes” of the Missouri conflict, complete with Protestant pearl-clutching and some subtle (not subtle) racism. It’s a Greatest Hits list of frontier sins: profanity, gambling, cockfighting (lol), and the real kicker—being poor and Southern. Cue some Appalachian shade and a necessary roasting of the Church’s revisionist history.

History

Abigail brings us the story of Harvey Fletcher, the devout Mormon physicist who helped invent stereo sound and, unintentionally, this podcast’s audio quality. He may have tried to hear God more clearly, but ended up giving us the dulcet tones of Google eyes and ice clinks. Thanks, Harvey. Science wins again.

It’s a rich episode full of mob violence, mocha cocktails, and Mormon mythmaking. Drink up and stay irreverent.

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Happy 4/20, celestial stoners. In this very special High on the Mountain Top episode, we light up and descend into the pre-mortal chaos of Saturday’s Warrior (1989)—a Mormon musical so cursed it makes Kolob look grounded.

We revisit this spiritual fever dream with our exmo goggles on and our edibles fully activated. Expect:
 🔥 Pre-existence thirst traps
 🎤 Four girls emotionally unraveling in musical canon
 📺 Public access nose songs??
 🎹 Jimmy Flinders' synth-fueled testimony collapse
 🚪 And the divine trapdoor to earth, apparently located just off-screen

This movie is a bizarre stew of eternal family guilt, awkwardly choreographed chastity ballads, and questionable doctrine set to major key. We laughed, we cringed, we remembered things we didn’t know were stored in our bones.

Watch along with us here: Saturday’s Warrior (1989) – Full Movie
🎬 Movie starts at exactly 1:06.06 into the episode.

Pack a bowl. Press play. And join us on a journey to discover why heaven apparently runs on synths, repression, and family bands.

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Moroni kicks off this week’s episode with a White Lotus-inspired drink that doubles as a tropical eulogy and a warning about unwashed kitchen appliances. The Wash Your Damn Blender is a blissfully boozy take on a piña colada, minus the pong pong poison. The GASP gang processes the chaos of the Season 3 finale, including maternal manipulation, Buddhist extortion, Sam Rockwell’s everything, and the surprisingly emotional redemption arc of Lockie. RIP, blender.

Scriptures: [00:22:41]

aaaAAAaaa takes us on a deeply unhinged tour of D&C 94–97, where God is full-on moonlighting as a zoning administrator. We get exact qubit dimensions, bizarre sexual allegories, and an apocalyptic threat disguised as architectural advice. It’s all very “divine city planning meets horny dungeon master.” Also: a reminder that if your temple doesn’t have exactly the right crown molding, God will abandon it like a budget Salt Lake starter home.

Church Teachings: [00:46:39]

Abish breaks down the latest round of spiritual gaslighting, aka April 2025 General Conference. We get Neil L. Andersen’s abortion tap-dance, Camille N. Johnson telling disabled people to suck it up spiritually, and Quentin L. Cook rewriting pioneer history with survivorship bias and weird art metaphors. It’s a rundown of weaponized empathy, bad science, and God’s apparent refusal to help your body feel better while still demanding 10% of your income. 

History: [01:19:11]

Abigail—fully hopped up on Costco Advil—dives into temple history. We learn about God’s suspicious obsession with spires, micro-penis towers in St. George, and the ever-escalating pissing contest of temple design. From sandstone castles to Mayan revival to full-on art deco, we explore how temple architecture evolved from local flair to global franchise. And yes, she covers the whole timeline from Kirtland to post-WWII brutalism and the dawn of the Hinckley McTemple™ Era.

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Welcome dear listeners to another episode of the greatest and most spacious podcast. This week’s cocktail is named Glory Juice—and it lives up to its name by being equal parts fruity, boozy, and dangerous. aaaAAAaaa officially makes the drink, but Abish immediately hijacks the segment like the chaotic good she is and you don't find out what is in the drink until the end of the segment..It’s a heady blend of pineapple rum, passion fruit rum, champagne, peach juice, and enough chopped fruit to qualify as a Relief Society salad. The result? A glowing, golden party potion with spiritual implications and very real consequences.

Scriptures: [00:31:26]
Abish leads us into Doctrine & Covenants 93, where we learn that Jesus started out as a dumbass baby and had to level up his divinity “grace by grace.” This revelation sparks a collective rant about weird bug theology, cosmic gaslighting, and the idea that you too can become God—if you just try really, really hard and don’t ask too many questions. The section also comes with a side of divine parenting tips and a suspiciously pointed callout that totally isn’t about Joseph Smith’s personal failings. Definitely not.

Church Teachings: [00:44:32]
Moroni dives into a rage-inducing gem from the Exmormon subreddit: Mark E. Petersen’s infamous “steps to stop masturbating.” From normal toilet processes to breaking up with horny friends, it's a full-blown manual in shame and repression, dressed up as spiritual self-control. The GASP crew gets real about growing up in a church obsessed with sexual purity, the absurdity of the “porn addiction” label, and the profound relief that comes with realizing your genitals aren’t evil. There's also an extremely enthusiastic vibrator testimonial. You’re welcome.

History: [01:55:14]
Abigail takes a break from the Nazis to shine a light on another bit of deeply cursed WWII history: the Japanese internment camps in Utah—specifically Topaz. Spoiler: it’s horrifying. From tar paper barracks in the middle of a godforsaken desert to armed guards shooting at old men walking their dogs, it’s a brutal look at America’s own concentration camps. Also, shoutout to George Takei, whose graphic memoir They Called Us Enemy gets a well-deserved mention. If this segment doesn’t make you scream “ARE WE THE BADDIES?” at least once, you weren’t listening.

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This week on The Great & Spacious Podcast, we crack open the vault of Bible B-sides with a deep dive into the Apocrypha—and we do it with a cocktail that’s as mysterious and intense as the lost books themselves. Abish leads the intro and introduces Second Esdras on the Rocks, a pantry-friendly drink garnished with forbidden fruit and theological rebellion. The hosts spiral into TikTok rabbit holes, AI fever dreams, and a passionate breakdown of why Pedro Pascal in thigh-high boots is the spiritual awakening we didn’t know we needed.

Scriptures: [00:21:30]
Moroni takes us through Doctrine & Covenants sections 90–92, where Joseph Smith is officially told he’s still the most specialist boy in the kingdom, and the First Presidency gets formed—but let’s be real, he’s still in charge. Section 91 brings us to the Apocrypha, which is described as “true and also not true,” because God apparently invented postmodernism. And in section 92, Frederick G. Williams is voluntold to join the United Firm, aka the early church’s “totally not communism” economic experiment, where everyone shares their stuff but Joseph still gets the mansion.

Church Teachings: [00:37:05]
aaaAAAaaa covers what the Church teaches (or more accurately, doesn't teach) about the Apocrypha. It’s basically a “read it if you feel like it, but don’t ask us to officially care.” He dives into a BYU article that admits a lot of apocryphal books actually vibe with LDS theology—like sealed books, end-time prophecies, and angelic beef—but D&C 91 scared everyone off. The segment turns into a righteous rant about scriptural cherry-picking, and the gang asks the obvious question: if Joseph stole his best ideas from these books, why are we pretending they’re optional reading?

History: [01:12:40]
Abigail finally escapes the Nazis (for now) and instead gives us a detailed and surprisingly tender history of George Albert Smith, the 8th president of the church and perhaps the only one with actual compassion. Born into Mormon royalty, raised with relentless pressure, and plagued by clinical depression, Georgie was a hymn-singing, three-piece-suit-wearing sad boi who just wanted to help people and avoid being in charge. Too bad the church made him a PR puppet anyway. We get breakdowns of mental breakdowns, a hilariously fake-sounding missionary story, and a deep appreciation for a man who may have had a touch of the tism but a whole lot of heart.

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This week aaaAAAaaa opens the show and unveils this week’s cocktail—The Angry Star, a sparkly pineapple-rum-chambord-champagne concoction that may or may not contain actual divine fury. Meanwhile, our special guest Esther learns about the divine schedule that temple names come from. Then, Abish hijacks the segment for an unhinged pop culture update that somehow spirals into Severance theories, Patricia Arquette slander, and a very serious discussion about Mr. Milchick’s… ORTBO activities.

Scriptures: [00:25:51]
aaaAAAaaa then bravely deep-dives into the hot mess that is D&C 88, where we learn that Jesus powers the sun, the moon is a woman, the stars are furious, and the earth “rolls upon her wings” like a goth girl at Burning Man. God is giving “please read the handbook before entering the chat” energy.

Church Teachings: [00:53:11]
Abish explores sanctification and how Mormon teachings make literally everything—even your 90s VHS collection—a cosmic battleground between God and Satan. We get Holland’s lightning-strike football resurrection story, VCR paranoia, and the classic LDS message: if you’re not holy, you’re horny, and that’s the devil’s work.

History: [01:22:33]
Abigail returns with Part 3 of the Nazi series, and this one’s got teeth. We meet teenage resistance legend Helmuth Hübener, and we also drag every Mormon who thought Hitler’s vegetarianism meant he was basically doing the Word of Wisdom. It turns out that the Deseret News did compare Nazi charity programs to LDS fast offerings, and yes, we are screaming. Loudly.

So pour something sparkly and sacrilegious, and join us as we unroll the celestial scroll with god's face behind it and yell at the angry stars. This one’s got history, heresy, and high-level flute trauma. Welcome to episode 101, babies.

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Welcome back, sinners and scholars! We’ve officially made it to 100 episodes, and what better way to celebrate than by doing everything the Word of Wisdom says not to? That’s right—this week, we’re raising our Apostate Elixir (crafted by Abish, but barely survived by our special guest Kal-audia, who nearly perished after one sip) to toast to a century of exposing Mormon absurdity. Before we deep-dive into the hypocrisy of Mormon health codes, we kick things off with pop culture, current events, and, of course, our bespoke cocktail of the week, a blasphemous concoction of caffeine, alcohol, and poor life choices.

Scriptures: 00:23:25

Moroni takes us into Doctrine & Covenants 89, the infamous Word of Wisdom section—aka the scriptural equivalent of an MLM diet plan. This so-called revelation bans coffee but lets you drink soda until your kidneys stage a coup. Also, Joseph Smith wrote this while definitely not following it. Classic Joey boy.

Church Teachings: 01:22:32

aaaAAAaaa leads a hilarious, boozy dive into Mormon dietary contradictions. Expect chaotic trivia, wild reinterpretations, and a drinking game that would get us kicked out of BYU faster than wearing tank tops.

History: 01:52:29

Abigail hosts a special edition of Great and Spacious Jeopardy, where we test our knowledge of the podcast’s own history. Which Game of Thrones character did we all agree is husband material? What horrific Dorito flavor did we use to haze a guest? And who exactly is Swiss Cheese Extremities Man?

So grab a sacrilegious sip of something strong, turn up the volume, and let’s break some commandments together. Here’s to 100 episodes of holy heresy—and many more to come!

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This week on The Great and Spacious Podcast, we’re diving into D&C 85-87 with the kind of scholarly rigor you’d expect from a group of tipsy ex-Mormons with a bespoke cocktail in hand. Our regular host Abish is out partying on a boat (no laws, only in-laws), so we’ve got special guest Claudia alongside Moroni, aaaAAAaaa, and our ever-reliable history sage, Abigail. Buckle up. Moroni kicks things off with casual chaos—pop culture, current events, and our handcrafted cocktail of the week, the Bone Quaker. Named after D&C 85:6 and Civil War-era whiskey habits, this drink is sure to shake your bones in a way Joseph Smith would either love or excommunicate you for.

Scriptures: [00:15:37]
aaaAAAaaa takes us on a journey through D&C 85-87—except, plot twist, it’s delivered in full Shakespearean drama. Prophecies of war, bone-quaking, and some deeply unnecessary theatrics ensue. Somewhere, Joseph Smith is rolling in his hat.

Church Teachings: [00:31:10]
Claudia leads a very necessary deep dive into inappropriate bishop interviews. They were wildly inappropriate. We read off a list of real questions asked to church youth that will make you want to scream into a down-filled pillow. Which we highly recommend.

History: [01:10:23]
Abigail returns with part two of her series on the religious and spiritual origins of the Nazi movement—because nothing says good wholesome fun like the SS’s occult LARPing and Himmler’s obsession with the Holy Grail. Turns out, Nazis were just a bunch of mystical nerds who turned genocidal. You’re gonna want to drink for this one.

Grab a Bone Quaker, clutch your pearls (or scriptures), and join us for an episode packed with unfiltered takes, historical hot messes, and the humor that keeps us all from spiraling into existential dread.

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Buckle up, celestial trash. First, aaaAAAaaa bravely attempts to lead the intro segment, only to get immediately derailed by Abish, as is tradition. The hosts chat about current events, pop culture, and the bespoke cocktail of the week: Hymn and Tonic—a nod to Joseph Smith’s bizarre decision to insert a random song at the end of D&C 84. Because nothing says divine revelation like dropping a sick beat in the middle of scripture.

Scriptures: [00:14:05]
Abish takes the reins for the scripture segment, dragging us through D&C 84—a section that elevates the priesthood to divine, eternal, and absolutely-not-questionable status. If you ever wondered how to take a drunk bubble bath spiral and turn it into a discussion about cults, Abish has you covered. Plus, a surprise game that asks: if Joseph Smith was definitively a fraud, which historical and fictional villains would he most resemble?

Church Teachings: [00:35:44]
Then, Moroni delivers the Church Teachings segment, where we dissect the priesthood, gender roles, and why the LDS Church still thinks women should be fancy little hats instead of actual participants. We also discuss whether God should get credit for progressive change when it takes literal centuries to happen. (If God could lift the priesthood ban in 1978, what’s stopping him from speed-running women’s equality?) Also, we propose renaming the church CoJCoLDS because... well, you just have to listen.

History: [01:10:40]
Finally, Abigail leads us into the History Segment from Hell—this time exploring the spiritual origins of Nazi ideology. That’s right, we’re talking Blavatsky, Aryosophy, mystical German nationalism, and how a 19th-century Russian woman with way too many scarves helped fuel white supremacist nonsense for generations. If you ever wanted a chaotic yet educational mashup of theosophy, occultism, and people getting way too excited about runes, this is your moment.

So pour yourself a Hymn and Tonic, brace yourself for aggressively weird history, and join us for another wild ride through scripture, church teachings, and just a little bit of fascism.

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As always, we kick things off with pop culture, current events, and our signature chaotic cocktail. This week, Abish guided us through the creation of the Cosmonism, a drink that started out looking alarmingly like bodily fluids but was saved by the power of grenadine. We also discuss the cultural travesty that is Love Is Blind casting eight clones of the same white dude, Saturday Night Live’s 50th anniversary, and White Lotus incest vibes. Standard stuff.

Scriptures: [00:21:20]
Moroni takes us through Doctrine and Covenants 80-83, where Joey Boy continues to hand out meaningless callings, fire people for vague reasons, and lay the groundwork for his version of divine communism—except, of course, when real communism is involved. The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one. Also, we unpack how God is apparently just a celestial landlord and how women and children get “maintenance” instead of, you know, rights. Delightful.

Church Teachings: [00:44:20]
aaaAAAaaa screams at us (in the best way possible) about the LDS Church’s very special relationship with communism. We cover how Mormon leaders, in true hypocritical fashion, demonized communism while literally running a communist-style religious economy (because Jesus-approved wealth redistribution is totally different, you guys). Also, did you know that Ezra Taft Benson was basically besties with McCarthy-era nutjobs and thought Martin Luther King Jr. was a secret communist agent? Yeah. We wish we were kidding.

History: [01:17:19]
Abigail goes full conspiracy mode and takes us on a journey to the center of the Church—literally. Turns out, early Mormons loved the Hollow Earth theory, and Joseph Smith was 100% on board with the idea of secret civilizations living inside the planet. We explore how this nonsense has been around forever (thanks, Greek mythology), why 19th-century scientists were just making shit up, and how Jules Verne was actually onto something (but definitely not the Mormons). Also, we spend a considerable amount of time thirsting over 90s-era Brendan Fraser, which is both valid and necessary.

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