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In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki is joined by Zak Cole and Austin Griffith for a live, builder-focused conversation on AI agents, OpenClaw, and the emerging agentic economy on Ethereum.

They dive deep into how they're actually running AI agents today from hardware setups and coordination layers to adversarial review loops, memory systems, and on-chain reputation. The conversation explores why agents need roles, audits, and social contracts, how ERC-8004 could enable agent discovery and trust, and why Ethereum may be the settlement layer for autonomous AI coordination.

A raw, high-signal discussion for builders experimenting at the frontier of AI × crypto, touching on open source, security, reputation, payments, and what a real agent economy might look like.

🌱 greenpill.network @greenpillnet https://x.com/owocki https://x.com/0xzak https://x.com/austingriffith

⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: why AI agents + OpenClaw matter right now 01:20 – Bear market builders & shipping through the noise 02:10 – Productivity, GitHub graphs & AI as leverage 03:10 – Hardware setups for running AI agents 04:20 – OpenClaw stacks, Telegram, Discord & coordination 05:50 – Network effects vs building your own tools 07:00 – Agent coordination problems & feedback loops 08:30 – Assigning roles and adversarial agents 10:20 – Scalability, failover & federated agents 12:10 – Managing many models & local vs cloud LLMs 14:00 – AI productivity, family time & work-life alignment 15:55 – Treating agents like junior developers 17:25 – Auditing smart contracts with AI 18:25 – Why blockchains matter for agent coordination 19:45 – ERC-8004: discovery & reputation for agents 21:00 – Hiring agents, marketplaces & reputation systems 22:15 – Taste, marketing & why agents still fail 24:10 – Weird failures, hallucinations & trust boundaries 25:55 – Wallet security & private key nightmares 27:00 – Emergency stops, rules & critical constraints 28:20 – Memory systems: files vs databases 30:20 – Agents as relay runners (Memento analogy) 31:55 – Tokens, BankerBot & clanker launches 33:55 – Agents launching tokens accidentally 35:30 – Builders vs trenchers & social contracts 37:00 – Defining covenants for agent-run projects 38:30 – Never selling tokens & aligning incentives 40:30 – Vesting, liquidity & sustainable token models 42:30 – ETH Wingman & AI-assisted dev tooling 44:00 – Skills, MCPs & Ethereum-native agents 46:00 – Funding hardware & scaling local agents 48:00 – The singularity feels close 49:50 – Why Ethereum fits the agentic economy 51:00 – Reputation, payments & new primitives 52:45 – Where exogenous capital comes from 54:50 – AI as the new UI for crypto 56:25 – Agents coordinating real life 57:40 – Separation of personal vs work agents 58:35 – Closing reflections & what's next

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In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki sits down with Shaw, founder of ElizaOS, to talk about AI agents, open source culture, and what it means to build meaningful systems in an age of automation.

Shaw reflects on shipping ElizaOS through the bear market, lessons from agent-native games, navigating hype cycles, and why software is becoming cheaper while agency, ownership, and coordination matter more than ever. They explore AI agents as collaborators, the future of work, crypto culture, abundance networks, and why communities not speculation should define what comes next.

A candid conversation about AI, culture, and building with purpose.

🌱 greenpill.network @greenpillnet https://x.com/owocki https://x.com/shawmakesmagic

Some of the materials you may be interested in checking out.

Join EthBoulder and see Shaw speak February 14, 2026: https://luma.com/o9qpeepn Guest Twitter/X: https://x.com/shawmakesmagic Guest Farcaster: https://farcaster.xyz/shawmakesmagic Guest Website: https://elizaos.ai ElizaOS GitHub: https://github.com/elizaOS/eliza ElizaOS Docs: https://docs.elizaos.ai ElizaOS on X: https://x.com/elizaos The Great Online Game (Packy McCormick): https://www.notboring.co/p/the-great-online-game The Meritverse (M3): https://paragraph.com/@m3org/the-meritverse Context Graphs (Foundation Capital): https://foundationcapital.com/context-graphs-ais-trillion-dollar-opportunity/ Clank Tank (M3): https://paragraph.com/@m3org/clank-tank

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Intro & why Shaw's work matters 01:10 – Catching up after the bear market 03:00 – How Shaw's perspective on AI has changed 05:10 – From Eliza v1 to ElizaOS 07:20 – Shipping fast & throwing code away 09:30 – AI agents as autonomous actors 12:00 – Agent-native games as experimentation spaces 15:10 – Open source, forks & losing mindshare 18:00 – Hype cycles, narratives & incentives 21:00 – Why "code is getting cheap" 24:00 – Rewriting systems & technical tradeoffs 27:00 – What AI agents still can't do 30:00 – Builder culture vs speculation culture 33:00 – Centralized platforms & getting banned 36:00 – Decentralized social: what's missing 39:00 – Are AI agents taking jobs? 41:30 – Meaning, agency & human creativity 44:00 – Ownership, UBI & coordination problems 46:30 – Abundance networks & positive-sum systems 49:00 – What Shaw wants to build next 51:00 – Closing thoughts

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi is joined by Patricia Parkinson and Benjamin Life, long-time community builders working on the OpenCivics Project, to explore how Network Nations can evolve from a conceptual framework into a real political movement.

Together, they unpack what it takes to move from ideas to action: building a shared theory of change, nurturing a scenius before formal institutions, balancing commons-based governance with movement leadership, and avoiding the traps of co-optation, extraction, or techno-elitism. The conversation dives into functional sovereignty, parallel societies, movement inclusivity beyond tech, progressive protocolization, and how Network Nations might grow as a pluralistic, polycentric movement capable of real-world impact.

A foundational episode on movement-building, legitimacy, and how communities can coordinate without losing their soul.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet opencivics.co omniharmonic.com patriciaparkinson.com https://x.com/yaoeo https://x.com/kosmicgardener https://x.com/omniharmonic

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – From concept to movement: why ideas aren't enough 01:20 – Introducing Patricia Parkinson & Benjamin Life (OpenCivics) 02:25 – Why Network Nations must become embodied in real life 04:15 – Theory of change & "parallel societies" 06:30 – Network Nations vs Network States 08:20 – Categories, scenes & movements (from idea to scenius) 10:15 – Shared culture vs shared markets 12:30 – Functional sovereignty as a unifying principle 14:25 – Vibes, aesthetics & kinship in movements 16:45 – Meta-politics vs politics 18:55 – Design criteria for healthy systems 20:50 – Territorial sovereignty & neo-colonial risks 22:55 – Who is this movement for? 26:30 – Scenius: collective genius & proximity 29:00 – Insiders, outsiders & beyonders 31:10 – Dual power & negotiating with institutions 33:15 – Forking the system (and re-merging) 35:25 – Making Network Nations inclusive beyond tech 37:45 – Web3 vs Occupy: lessons from past movements 40:05 – Centering the "why" before the tools 42:10 – Infrastructure for post-capitalist futures 44:05 – Commons governance & movement fragility 46:10 – Movements without charismatic leaders 48:15 – Progressive protocolization & anti-fragility 50:30 – Protocols as culture (Burning Man example) 52:10 – Network Nations Alliance & early constitutions 54:05 – Concrete ways OpenCivics supports the movement 55:30 – Pattern languages & civic infrastructure 57:30 – Calls, rhythms & shared artifacts 59:10 – How to get involved & closing thoughts

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation.

They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a "good life." The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China.

A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/felix_beer https://x.com/helena__rong https://seedao.xyz/ Helena's work on SeeDAO: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations 01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study 02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads 03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong 04:26 – Helena's research on SeeDAO 05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO 08:00 – From startup to community 09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection 11:46 – What does a "good life" mean in SeeDAO? 12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3 13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community 14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance 16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom 18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities 19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO 20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation 22:32 – Reputation, contribution & governance tokens 24:38 – Blockchain as a social ledger 26:34 – Is SeeDAO a proto Network Nation? 28:31 – Translocality & offline gatherings 30:32 – Digital nomad week & rural revitalization 32:51 – DAO as scaffolding for real communities 34:48 – Instrumental vs value-driven governance 36:53 – Sovereignty, China & parallel worlds 39:02 – Network Nations alongside nation-states 41:21 – Digital nomads & rural China 43:41 – Co-presence across villagers, nomads & DAOs 45:52 – Integration, not exit 48:00 – Interoperability between communities 50:13 – Lessons from SeeDAO for Network Nations 52:13 – Helena's research & where to find her work 53:10 – Closing thoughts

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In this episode of the VDAO × Greenpill Anti-Fragile Network States mini-series, host Kris Miller speaks with Danilo, a software engineer who left city life behind to rebuild his health, relationship with food, and sense of resilience through permaculture, natural building, and community living in Uruguay.

Danilo shares how a health crisis pushed him to rethink his lifestyle, why growing food changed everything, and how moving closer to nature reshaped his understanding of resilience. They explore food autonomy, water catchment, natural house building, digital tools for land design, patience as a strategy, and why community is the most important layer of resilience.

A deeply human conversation about bridging technology and nature to build a regenerative, antifragile way of life.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 vdao.org 🐦 https://x.com/JoinVDAO 🐦 https://x.com/greenpillnet linktr.ee/danilo_da_rosa

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Cold open: city life, darkness & missing nature 00:59 – Danilo joins & his "why" 02:30 – Health crisis & rethinking food 03:55 – Farmers markets, seasons & nutrient-dense food 05:00 – Leaving the city for a small farm 06:45 – Technology, screens & losing connection with nature 08:05 – What resilience means on a human level 09:15 – Health challenges as antifragility 11:15 – COVID, gardens & food security 13:15 – Choosing land: early mistakes & lessons 15:00 – Advice: observe land for a full year 17:25 – Studying soil, biodiversity & local laws 18:10 – Using digital tools to assess land 19:35 – Making land-design tools free & accessible 22:00 – Water catchment & reading the land 25:55 – Rainwater systems, ponds & long-term planning 27:50 – Slow solutions & patience in permaculture 29:40 – Building a natural (cob) house 31:45 – Learning by building & skill-sharing 33:30 – Loneliness, then rediscovering community 35:45 – Mingas, workshops & social resilience 37:45 – Local materials & low-tech building 41:35 – Bridging tech skills with land stewardship 43:50 – Using software to support regeneration 45:50 – Food autonomy: annuals vs perennials 48:20 – Energy efficiency & working with nature 49:40 – One-square-meter gardens as a starting point 52:00 – Energy use, renewables & solar plans 53:15 – Advice for developers starting this journey 54:50 – Final thoughts & closing

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi is joined by Jessy Kate Schingler, co-founder of the Embassy Network, to explore how intentional communities and new jurisdictions can give Network Nations real-world grounding.

Jessy shares lessons from over a decade of building translocal co-living communities, explains why the Embassy Network thought of its spaces as "embassies to the future," and how identity, culture, and entanglement emerge without formal membership rules. The conversation then turns to jurisdictional innovation, including Gelephu Mindfulness City in Bhutan, and how special administrative regions, charter cities, and regulatory sandboxes could act as physical anchor points for Network Nations.

A rich discussion on culture, identity, subsidiarity, functional sovereignty, and how digital communities might interface with states without losing their values.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/yaoeo https://x.com/jessykate

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Can Network Nations become political actors without land? 01:10 – Intentional communities vs new jurisdictions 02:25 – Introducing Jessy Kate Schingler (Embassy Network) 03:20 – What intentional communities look like today 04:45 – The origin of the Embassy Network 05:40 – "Embassies to the future" where the name came from 06:45 – Membership, curation & why formal rules failed 08:15 – Sister communities & translocal identity 09:30 – Cultural, financial & people-based entanglement 11:40 – Cultural transfusion as the strongest glue 13:00 – Financial support between community nodes 14:20 – Identity through shared people & movement 16:20 – Drift: experiments with shared currencies & mobility 18:05 – Private law vs public law in Network Nations 19:10 – Why jurisdictions matter for scaling 20:05 – Rise of new jurisdictions worldwide 21:50 – Introducing Gelephu Mindfulness City (Bhutan) 23:30 – Values, culture & mindful development 25:35 – Experimentation, subsidiarity & the "diamond strategy" 27:20 – Visas, access & digital-first services 29:35 – Jurisdictions as platforms for Network Nations 31:45 – New corporate forms & DAO-native structures 33:45 – Network state vs network nation approaches 36:05 – Polycentricity & layered governance 38:00 – Embassies as portals between cultures 40:15 – AI, credentials & future statutory innovation 42:40 – Regulatory equivalence & sandboxing 44:40 – Intentional communities vs territorial zones 46:40 – Dispute resolution as a legitimacy bridge 50:30 – Lessons from working with states 52:40 – Land policy, mutualism & functional sovereignty 54:50 – Where to follow Jessy Kate & closing thoughts

In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi speak with Santiago Siri, founder of Democracy Earth, DemocracyOS, and Proof of Humanity, to explore a central question of the digital age: Can we escape politics with protocols or do protocols simply create new political arenas?

Santiago shares his journey from building Argentina's internet political party Partido de la Red, to creating open-source democratic infrastructure, to running one of the most ambitious on-chain identity and governance experiments in Web3. They discuss identity as the core bottleneck of digital democracy, governance failures inside protocols, DAOs as political systems, AI as both promise and threat, and what Network Nations must learn from a decade of real-world experimentation.

A deep, honest conversation about legitimacy, power, and why politics never disappears it just moves layers.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/santisiri https://x.com/yaoeo

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Can protocols help us escape politics? 01:00 – Introducing Santiago Siri 02:15 – From activism to political parties 04:10 – Partido de la Red & proxy voting 06:40 – Using technology to modernize democracy 09:00 – DemocracyOS & global adoption 10:45 – Why political systems resist change 12:10 – The limits of centralized digital voting 14:15 – Why identity is the core problem 15:45 – Leaving politics to build infrastructure 17:50 – Democracy Earth & global pilots 20:00 – Bitcoin vs Ethereum for governance 22:00 – The birth of Proof of Humanity 24:20 – Early identity failures & attacks 26:40 – One person, one vote challenges 29:55 – Proof of Humanity mechanics explained 32:10 – UBI, incentives & DAO governance 34:40 – Delegation farming & power struggles 36:25 – Quadratic delegation as a fix 38:25 – Removing founders from power 40:25 – Identity, justice & money tensions 42:00 – AI breaks video-based identity 44:05 – Worldcoin & biometric approaches 46:30 – Protocols still create politics 48:30 – AI governance experiments 50:25 – Why AI is still unsafe for governance 52:25 – Centralized compute as a risk 54:15 – Who governs the governance layer? 56:40 – Proof of Humanity as a proto–Network Nation 58:40 – What's missing for real Network Nations 01:00:45 – Shared identity & legitimacy 01:02:55 – Lessons from 10 years of experimentation 01:04:40 – Final lesson: legitimacy is enacted, not declared 01:07:30 – Where to follow Santiago & closing

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer are joined by Vitalik Buterin to reflect on one of the most influential experiments in recent community-building history: Zuzalu.

Vitalik shares the motivations behind Zuzalu, what actually worked (and what didn't), and why many pop-up cities risk drifting into "long conferences" instead of becoming real communities. Together they explore kinship vs telos, culture vs mission, permanence vs mobility, governance by forking, and how zones, tribes, and regulatory sandboxes might interlock to form durable network nations.

A deep, reflective conversation on how digitally aligned communities can evolve into lasting political actors without losing their soul.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/yaoeo?lang=en https://x.com/felix_beer?lang=en https://x.com/VitalikButerin https://www.zuzalu.city/

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Why Zuzalu matters for network nations 02:20 – Introducing Vitalik & the Zuzalu experiment 03:40 – From ideas to action: why Zuzalu was created 05:40 – Bringing 200 people together for two months 07:10 – When a pop-up becomes "real life" 09:10 – Membership, visas & selective curation 11:20 – Zuzalu's offshoots: Edge City, Vitalia & more 13:30 – Decentralizing after Zuzalu 15:30 – Why permanence matters 18:10 – Building culture through physical proximity 20:20 – Cities vs tribes vs nations 22:30 – Membership as a spectrum, not binary 24:50 – Bitcoin embassies & cultural recognition 27:00 – Interests vs vibes vs kinship 29:10 – Shared experiences as the glue of community 31:30 – Why kinship is hard to design 33:50 – Internal purpose vs external purpose 36:10 – Telos-driven communities & corporations 38:50 – Prospera, regulation & culture 41:00 – Zones as platforms for tribes 44:40 – Regulatory sandboxes & state experiments 46:50 – Libertarian vs developmentalist approaches 49:10 – Why niche cities beat generic hubs 51:40 – The "archipelago" vision 54:00 – Zones and tribes: separation or fusion? 56:00 – Governance by forking 01:10:00 – Why governance still matters 01:12:10 – Reinvigorating crypto's political vision 01:14:10 – Low-hanging fruit for network nations 01:16:40 – Ethereum as a proto-network nation 01:17:50 – Closing thoughts

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi explore one of the most influential community experiments of the last 40 years: Burning Man.

They're joined by Erika Blair, who leads engagement and network strategy at Burning Man, to unpack how a one-week event in the Nevada desert evolved into a global, year-round network of communities bound not by territory, but by shared principles, rituals, and identity.

The conversation dives into the origins of Burning Man, the emergence of the 10 Principles, regional burns around the world, kinship and belonging, ritual and meaning, cultural dilution, and whether Burning Man can be understood as a real-world example of a network nation — including where it aligns, and where it diverges, from ideas like functional sovereignty and self-governance.

A fascinating case study for anyone interested in network societies, collective identity, and the future of non-territorial communities.

🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network https://burningman.org/ @owocki @greenpillnet

⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 – Burning Man as a radical community experiment 02:09 – Introducing Erika Blair & her role at Burning Man 03:50 – Why Burning Man resonated as a movement 05:30 – Burning Man as a response to consumerism 07:40 – The mythic origins: burning the man on the beach 09:40 – Meaning without a fixed narrative 12:15 – What does it mean to be a "Burner"? 14:20 – Global participation beyond Nevada 17:20 – Recognizing "Burner texture" and shared ethos 18:40 – Imagining the world anew 20:30 – The 10 Principles: origins and purpose 24:00 – How regional burns emerged worldwide 27:20 – Burning Man as a "network of networks" 30:10 – Why some events are official 32:10 – Protecting culture from commodification 35:40 – Kinship, belonging, and recognition 37:50 – Decommodification and trust 40:20 – Rituals: the Man, the Temple, grief & celebration 43:20 – Full-spectrum human experience 45:20 – Popularity, scaling & cultural dilution 47:50 – Burning Man across cultures 49:20 – Is Burning Man a Network Nation? 51:30 – Functional sovereignty & working with states 53:45 – Governance, autonomy & stewardship 56:20 – Burning Man as a permission engine 58:40 – Community decision-making & slow governance 01:00:55 – The power of intrinsic motivation 01:02:40 – Building nations vs building companies 01:03:50 – Where to learn more & closing

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In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki sits down with Jake Hartnell reality engineer, builder, and the mind behind ENOVA to explore the idea of hyperstitions: beliefs and narratives that become real by spreading through networks.

Jake explains how hyperstitions operate as a new coordination primitive, why technologies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AGI can be seen as successful hyperstitions, and how tools like hyperstition markets blend prediction markets, incentives, and storytelling to drive collective action. They discuss ENOVA, egregores, cybernetic systems, futarchy, and how communities can consciously design narratives that pull the future into the present.

A deep and playful conversation about memetics, crypto-economics, and how collective belief can shape the world.

🌱 greenpill.network @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/JakeHartnell

Some of the materials we mention in the episode: https://x.com/0xEN0VA https://en0va.xyz/hyperstition

⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to a new season of Greenpill 01:55 – Introducing Jake Hartnell & the idea of hyperstitions 02:45 – What is a hyperstition? (simple definition) 04:23 – Examples: AGI, Ethereum & Bitcoin as hyperstitions 06:50 – Everyday hyperstitions: lunch vs parties 08:05 – Network effects & aspirational stories 09:20 – Is Greenpill itself a hyperstition? 10:10 – What Jake is building with ENOVA 11:05 – Hyperstition markets explained 12:35 – The first hyperstition market & Goodhart's Law 14:10 – Donation-based hyperstitions & GG / bioregional funding 16:10 – Incentivizing action, not passive prediction 18:00 – Theory of change & coordination design 19:40 – Hyperstition markets vs hyperstition itself 21:30 – Where to find ENOVA & what's coming next 23:05 – Egregores, cybernetic systems & collective intelligence 26:15 – Making hyperstition markets permissionless 28:00 – Greenpill, regeneration & narrative power 31:55 – Phases of a hyperstition 33:20 – Futarchy & decision-making markets 35:20 – Community as the real coordination engine 36:20 – A future where DAOs work 38:15 – Collective intelligence as political power 39:50 – Closing thoughts & where to follow Jake