Hello and welcome to the NotACast, the one true chapter-by-chapter podcast going through A Song of Ice and Fire! This week, we had on our buddy Zack from the great Game of Owns podcast to talk about their interview with George R.R. Martin himself (along with House of the Dragon, of course).

As announced a few episodes back, Jeff is sadly not returning to the podcast. Our friend and fellow podcaster Manu is joining as the new co-host, and we'll be returning to ASOIAF with Sansa's third chapter in A Storm of Swords, released for patrons starting 8/18 and for everyone on 8/22. Our Lord of the Rings episodes will continue on a monthly basis for all $5+ patrons, as will our Star Wars series for patrons. If you've been liking the LOTR episodes, head over to www.patreon.com/notacastasoiaf and sign up to keep enjoying them, starting in September with Book 5 Chapter 7, "The Pyre of Denethor." Thanks for listening! 

Zack's podcast: http://gameofowns.com/ 

Zack's twitter: https://twitter.com/GameOfOwns 

Manu's Twitter: https://twitter.com/ManuclearBomb 

Manu's patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ManuclearBomb

Our patreon: www.patreon.com/NotACastASOIAF