<p>Tom & Andy open up the mailbag to talk more about Penn State's future in the wake of the Michigan loss and Mike Yurcich's firing. Then they talk about how to avoid a letdown against a feisty Rutgers team. Plus, "By the Numbers" with Joel Bettner. </p>

Tom & Andy open up the mailbag to talk more about Penn State's future in the wake of the Michigan loss and Mike Yurcich's firing. Then they talk about how to avoid a letdown against a feisty Rutgers team. Plus, "By the Numbers" with Joel Bettner.

<p>Tom &amp; Andy open up the mailbag to talk more about Penn State's future in the wake of the Michigan loss and Mike Yurcich's firing. Then they talk about how to avoid a letdown against a feisty Rutgers team. Plus, "By the Numbers" with Joel Bettner. </p>

Gut Check: Rutgers Look-Ahead

Blue and White Brothers is a podcast about all things Penn State football hosted by Tom and Andy Gathman: two brothers with two takes about one team. Tom Gathman, better known as “The Real Hiking Viking,” spends much of his time on trail and off grid living life to the full. Andy Gathman is the pastor of a small rural church and spends most of his time spreading the good news. We are as different as brothers can be with one exception: a passion for Penn State football. We bring our love of the game and lifelong sibling rivalry to each show. Join us every week as we discuss our thoughts, analysis, and perspective on Penn State football. Blue and White Brothers is a project of Pastime Sports, Ltd.

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