My guest today is Stephen Horn, an independent journalist who has done real work unpacking where H1-B visa holders go and who they work for, especially in North Carolina. H1-B visa holders teach at public schools, but there have recently been complaints about the failure to understand them. In addition, Stephen covered the story of several white workers who sued a tech company for allegedly prioritizing immigrant hires over native-born American workers. This podcast contributes to the ongoing debate about immigration, visas, and whether America can indeed train up high-tech workers with our current education system.