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What if your biggest disciple-making problem is not failure, but aiming at "success" and getting something different than how Jesus defines it?
In this episode, Mark and Dave unpack why a production mindset can quietly turn people into projects and push us to “innovate our way out of success.” They show how Jesus defines success through time, transformation, relationship, and reproduced lifestyle, not quick outputs. This matters because if you define success wrong, you may eventually get exactly what you asked for and realize it is not the kingdom fruit you wanted.
Your job is not in the way of your calling. In this episode, Mark and Dave unpack why work, business, family, neighborhood, and mission were never meant to live in separate compartments. They show how your workplace may not just fund ministry, but become one of the main places God has already given you access for the gospel.
If you have ever felt torn between making a living and making disciples, this conversation will help you see the mission already sitting inside your ordinary week.
Good tools matter. But tools alone rarely lead to real multiplication. In this episode, Mark and Dave unpack what often gets missed between solid training and lasting fruit: seeing disciple-making lived up close, inside real habits, real relationships, and real ministry rhythms.
They debrief the recent New York Covo Immersion and show why people don’t just need better content. They need withness, shared practice, and the kind of partnership that makes it easier to keep going.
Save Your Seat for the "Lost to Leader" 45 Min Zoom Lab next month: https://www.covomultipliers.com/from-lost-to-leader.html
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