Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh speak with the Athletic’s Paul Tenorio on why Apple TV and MLS revised their deal and removed the paywall for viewers. They’re then joined by Massachusetts state senator John Keenan about his proposal to regulate online sports betting and why he’s changed his views on the issue. Finally, they wrap with a discussion of Connor Bedard and Macklin Celebrini, the young hockey phenoms leading the NHL in scoring. Lindsay has an Afterball on the one New York team that is actually good: Gotham FC.

On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel discusses the abysmal football on display from both the New York Jets and Giants.

Apple and MLS (6:00): Tear down the wall

Regulating Big Gaming (25:41): Mass. state senator John Keenan wants to rein in sports betting

Hockey’s Young Guns (51:36): Shooting it out for the Art Ross trophy

Afterballs (1:07:04): The Bats win it

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