Happy Holidays to all! As a token of thanks for all of the support these last few months, we wanted to share another one of our Patreon only episodes. This conversation with Norman was so interesting and frankly, if his batteries on his headphones weren't about to run out we probably could have punished him for another couple hours just sitting and talking about hardcore. This episode really has the feel of hanging out at the diner at 1 AM after the show talking with your friends about hardcore. We hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed having this conversation. Check out our website at www.whereitwentpodcast.com for info on how to become a Patron to unlock all sorts of bonus content like this episode and more!