Yesterday Nigel Farage unveiled Reform UK’s plans to tackle the issue of small boats and illegal migration. It's a problem that's driven European politics for almost a decade, we look to the continent for lessons they've learned on how it could be solved.

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Guest: Oliver Moody, Berlin correspondent, The Times. 

Host: Manveen Rana. 

Producer: Edith Rousselot. 

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