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In recent days, there have been a lot of war-related developments that have taken place in Israel and outside of Israel. So it was good that we had the opportunity to catch up with Haviv Rettig Gur as Shavuot came to a close in Israel.

In this episode, we wound up having a spirited conversation about:

I.The mood in Israel days after after Operation Arnon, and also why the day after the successful resuce operation we saw Benny Gantz's long anticipated exit from the unity government;

II. The ultra orthodox or 'Haredi' IDF exemption bill that passed in the Knesset; and

III. Hamas's rejection (yet again) of Israel's ceasefire proposal.