In the Season 2 premiere of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake sits down with John Esposito, Chief of Department for the FDNY, for an intimate and wide-ranging discussion on leadership, legacy, and the realities of life in one of the world’s busiest fire departments. From 9/11 reflections and the evolution of FDNY to the traits of impactful leaders and memorable fireground moments, Chief Esposito shares hard-earned wisdom and never-before-heard stories that offer rare insight into the heart of New York’s Bravest.

0:00 – 2:45 | Intro & 9/11 Reflections

Jake introduces Chief Esposito and shares a personal 9/11 memory.

Chief discusses how 9/11 reshaped the FDNY and the lasting impact on the department’s culture and capabilities.

2:46 – 6:00 | The FDNY’s National Influence

How FDNY’s decisions ripple across the American Fire Service.

Lessons learned through innovation and trial by fire.

6:01 – 12:00 | Staying Connected to the Streets

Chief Esposito explains how he maintains real-time awareness of field operations.

Insights on technology, communication systems, and his use of Citizen App.

12:01 – 14:26 | Origins & Career Beginnings

Why Esposito joined the FDNY in 1991.

Reflections on becoming a firefighter and the influence of Report from Engine Co. 82.

14:27 – 18:00 | First Fire & Early Lessons

Vivid recollection of his first fire.

Thoughts on preparation, performance, and the emotional charge of that first job.

18:01 – 21:15 | Transition to Special Operations

Moving to Squad 18 and working with elite fire personnel.

The rigorous process and mindset behind making the switch.

21:16 – 25:35 | Training Culture & Tough Calls

The philosophy of consistent, adaptive training.

Real-world example: A Bronx rescue where plan B wasn’t good enough—they needed plan E.

25:36 – 30:04 | Memories of Andy Fredericks

Personal stories and heartfelt tribute to a fire service legend.

A hilarious and humbling hydrant mishap involving Fredericks.

30:05 – 33:25 | Climbing the Ranks

Post-9/11 promotions and unexpected career trajectory.

How staying ready allowed him to rise in leadership.

33:26 – 36:32 | Leadership & Morale

The most important traits in fire service leadership.

Balancing empathy, accountability, and understanding your people.

36:33 – 38:08 | Caring for Morale

Where morale comes from and how leaders must foster it.

Real-life examples of FDNY’s finest doing heroic work.

38:09 – 40:00 | Pride & Purpose

What Chief Esposito is most proud of in his career.

Doing the right thing in gray-area decisions.

40:01 – 41:21 | The Stupid Question Returns

OG question: Who would win in a fight—grizzly, tiger, or gorilla?

Fun and lighthearted close with reflections on strength and instinct.

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