I sat down with a woman who walked away from one of the most public marriages in music history — and I wanted to know what it actually takes to choose yourself when the whole world admires your partner.

Deborah Santana spent over thirty years building a life, a business, and a family inside a marriage to one of the most famous musicians of our time, Carlos Santana. From the outside, it looked like the dream. But somewhere along the way, she started asking herself the question so many of us avoid: Am I actually living my purpose, or just managing everyone else's? 

Deborah is an author, activist, philanthropist, filmmaker, and longtime advocate for equity and empowerment. Her new memoir, Loving the Fire, traces a journey of choosing truth over appearances, freedom over fear, and her own voice over quiet acceptance of what no longer serves her.

In this conversation, we get into what it really takes to rebuild your identity after fame, motherhood, and decades of putting yourself last — the moment that finally gave her permission to leave, what she's learned about love the second time around, and why she now believes the world has lost something essential by turning away from matriarchal wisdom. We also talk about raising kids who feel truly seen and the intuitive flashes she trusts more than almost anything else in her life. 

Deborah is 75 and more radiant than ever. She is living proof that reinvention can happen at any age. If you feel like you’ve abandoned yourself or your dreams to keep others happy, this one is for you.

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Have you ever wondered how some people find the strength to keep going when life keeps knocking them down?

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You all know that we are living in a toxic soup of seen and unseen chemicals. They're in our water, our food, our air, our furniture, and our clothing — everywhere we turn. It can feel overwhelming. But what if detoxification simply became a natural part of how we live, not something we need to fear or stress about?

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend, vitality expert and detox architect Natalie Lefevre, for a fascinating conversation about what it really means to support the body's ability to heal.

Like many of the guests I love bringing to you, Natalie's passion comes from her own healing journey. After being misdiagnosed, experiencing serious health challenges, and losing someone she loves, she was propelled into a lifelong search for answers that took her far beyond conventional medicine and around the world in pursuit of innovative healing modalities.

Natalie works with advanced diagnostics and blood filtration technologies to uncover what conventional approaches often miss. But what I love most about her perspective is that she doesn't stop at the physical body. We explore the emotional and nervous system patterns that can silently keep us stuck, even when we're eating well, exercising, and doing all the "right" things.

Together, we discuss environmental toxins, heavy metals, microplastics, inflammation, nervous system regulation, grief, emotional healing, subconscious programming, and the powerful connection between body, mind, and spirit.

Natalie's philosophy is simple: detox isn't a protocol — it's a way of life. And true vitality becomes possible when we address all of who we are — the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual aspects of healing.

Whether you're just beginning your wellness journey or looking to go deeper into root-cause healing, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about what it means to detox, heal, and reclaim your health.

Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :

🌍 [0:00] Born in the Seychelles, Overthrew the Government and Landed in Texas

☠️ [3:29] Mercury Poisoning From Eating Salmon — The Start of Her Journey

🧠 [8:26] Emotional Toxins Are Real and Every Organ Holds a Different One

🪦 [9:29] Her Dad Died of Stage Four Cancer — and She Let Herself Scream It Out

💊 [14:16] Her Ibogaine Journey and Feeling Pure Oneness

🧪 [28:32] The Two Labs She Starts Every Client With

🩸 [31:39] The Full Body Blood Cleanse That Changed Her Life

✈️ [33:25] Her Lotion Set Off the Bomb Alarm at the Airport

🌡️ [43:05] Why Fever Is a Healing Mechanism — Not the Enemy

⚡ [35:53] Ozone, Oxygenation and What to Do for Long Covid

🌱 [41:20] We Live in a Red Zone Now — Detox Has to Be a Lifestyle

💛 [57:45] Start Somewhere — and Give Yourself Grace

Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Always consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your health, diet, supplements, medications, or treatment plan.

LINKS

Natalie Lefevre website: https://natalielefevre.com/

Natalie on Instagram @island_natalie

Legacy Lyfe on Instagram @legacylyfe_

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I truly feel that all healing is spiritual healing. And this is something Dr. Amy Robbins emphasizes it in this eye opening conversation.

Amy is a clinical psychologist, spiritual teacher, psychic medium, and host of the podcast Life, Death, and the Space Between. She has spent 20 years quietly doing something quite radical — building a framework that refuses to separate what happens in the therapy room from what's happening in your soul. She calls it Spiritually Informed Therapy, and I really feel like it’s the missing piece in the mental health conversation.

We get into the spiritual experiences therapists are increasingly hearing from their patients behind closed doors — but are often hesitant to address because it’s not acknowledged in the western psychology space. We talk about everything from felt presences of spirits, intuitive knowing, grief, communications from other realms, awakenings, and why traditional mental health spaces don't know how to hold them. Amy shares why she believes spirituality can no longer be treated as separate from mental health, and how she's training clinicians to ethically bring these conversations into their work.

We also go deep on alignment, trauma, anxiety, nervous system regulation, breathwork, and the hidden cost of ignoring your intuition. And why chronic stress doesn't just exhaust you, it cuts you off from the quiet inner voice that's trying to guide you. 

This one is part therapy session, part spiritual awakening, part reminder that every piece of being human, the joy, the heartbreak, the mystery, is sacred.

Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :

LINKS

Dr. Amy Robbins website: https://www.dramyrobbins.com/

Dr. Amy Robbins on Instagram @dramyrobbins

Dr. Amy Robbins Podcast: Life, Death and the Space Between

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What if the way you’ve been trying to manage stress, anxiety, and emotional overwhelm is missing one essential piece… your heart?

In this deeply fascinating conversation, I sit down with Dr. Deborah Rozman, behavioral psychologist, President and co-CEO of HeartMath, and one of the leading pioneers in the science of heart coherence and heart-brain communication.

We explore how our emotional states directly impact the body, why HRV may reveal far more than most people realize, and what actually happens when the heart and brain fall into sync. Deborah shares the research behind intuition, nervous system regulation, emotional resilience, and the measurable effects of coherence on our health, mental state, and overall well-being. 

We also talk about anxiety, trauma, emotional patterns, meditation, wearable devices, performance states, and why practices like gratitude and heart-focused breathing may be far more powerful than we’ve been taught.

One of my favorite moments in this episode is when Deborah guides us through a real-time heart coherence practice you can follow along with — a simple yet powerful exercise designed to help calm the nervous system, quiet the mind, and bring you back into balance within minutes.

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Most of us are doing all the things — and still not feeling vital and energized. This episode might reveal the missing piece…

In this week’s episode, I sit down with Connie Zack, co-founder of Sunlighten Saunas, and her story alone is worth pressing play for. It starts with someone she loves, a health crisis that wouldn't budge, and a discovery that quietly changed the direction of her life.

We get into what infrared light actually is — and why it's so much more than just a hot room. We cover how it works at the cellular level, and what that actually means for detox, circulation, and the kind of deep rest most of us aren't getting. We also had a really honest conversation about the nervous system — why you genuinely cannot heal when you're stuck in fight-or-flight, and what it actually takes to come back into regulation.

It’s not about adding another step to your wellness routine. It's about understanding what your body needs to do what it is innately designed to do... to heal.

If you feel like you’ve been running on empty and can't quite figure out why… I think this conversation is going to open something up for you.

If you follow me on Instagram, you know how obsessed I am with my infrared sauna. It’s my mini oasis where I go to replenish and reflect. If you’d like to learn more or create your own sauna tailored to your needs, visit Sunlighten.com/healwithkelly to receive a personalized quote.

Infrared saunas can be pricey — so it’s a great time to remind you that the sun is the most abundant and free source of infrared light. Spending 10–15 minutes outdoors in the morning or late afternoon will also give you a healthy dose of rich spectrum near-infrared rays.

LINKS

Sunlighten website: https://www.sunlighten.com/

Sunlighten on Instagram @sunlightensaunas

Connie Zack on Instagram @conniejozack

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Do you feel like you've lost touch with yourself somewhere in the noise of modern life? Like you're doing all the things… but still feeling disconnected, drained, or out of rhythm with who you truly are?

This conversation with Michael Trainer felt like medicine for my soul.

Michael is the co-creator of the Global Citizen Festival, host of the Peak Mind podcast, and author of Resonance: The Art and Science of Human Connection — and in this episode, we explore what it really means to live in resonance with yourself, your relationships, your purpose, and the deeper "song" that wants to be expressed through your life.

We talk about the epidemic of loneliness and disconnection… why some people energize us while others leave us depleted… and how our nervous systems are constantly being shaped by the environments, media, and relationships around us. Michael shares beautiful insights from Resonance on grief, heartbreak, healing, authenticity, creativity, and why pain itself can become the compost for a more meaningful life.

We also dive into the power of music as a metaphor for life, the importance of finding your "root" relationships, the healing power of community, and why true wealth may actually be the quality of experiences we share with the people we love.

This episode reminded me that healing isn't just about fixing ourselves — it's about coming back into tune. Back into connection. Back into the rhythm of who we really are.

Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :

🌍 [0:00] How Global Citizen Raised $1.3 Billion Through Music

🎸 [4:08] Why They Gave Away Tickets — and Changed Philanthropy Forever

🎶 [8:29] You Have a Unique Note That Wants to Live in the Symphony of Life

🔇 [10:00] Why Most People Are Playing Someone Else's Song

📡 [14:00] Signal vs Noise — How to Find Your Music in the Chaos

🌀 [20:00] What Resonance Actually Means and Why It Changes Everything

🤝 [30:00] The Council Fire Principle — How the Right People Find You

🌿 [53:09] The Sri Lanka Healer Who Said Dis-Ease Is Just Lost Rhythm

❤️ [54:02] How Being Fully Seen and Heard by a Community Restores Health

🎤 [55:24] If You Can Walk, Dance — If You Can Talk, Sing

LINKS

Resonance: The Art and Science of Human Connection book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/49nLFqE

Michael on Instagram @michaeltrainer

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Is the life you’re experiencing right now something you’ve been unconsciously creating — or are you creating from a place of purpose and intention? 

Most of you know manifestation is one of my favorite topics to discuss! In this episode, I sit down with Papi DiNuzzo — wealth manager, manifestation coach, and author of Manifest Anything You Can Imagine — for a spontaneous, high-frequency conversation about what it really means to consciously create your life. We go beyond surface-level “law of attraction” ideas and into how your thoughts, emotions, and subconscious patterns may be shaping your reality in ways you may not even realize.

We talk about why so many of us feel stuck in repeating patterns, how negative self-talk can influence what we attract, and why the first moments of your morning can be so important. Papi shares his perspective on the subconscious mind, energy, and why manifestation is not a quick fix but something you live and practice daily.

We also explore gratitude, belief, and emotional alignment, along with how focusing on the past or worrying about the future can pull you out of the present moment where real change happens. We talk about the importance of getting clear on what you truly want and what it takes to begin creating from that place. 

This conversation opens up a deeper look at purpose — why we’re here, what we’re here to create, and how much power we may actually have to shape our lives.

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I didn’t know too much about the impressive Johanna Hellrigl before this conversation — a friend suggested I interview her and I intuitively said yes on the spot. And I’m so glad I did!

Johanna is the chef and founder behind Ama, an award-winning Northern Italian restaurant in Washington, D.C., and a board member of the Environmental Working Group who is revolutionizing what it means to nourish people — from the way she sources whole ingredients to how she cares for her team to the deeper intention behind every decision she makes. She is building a model of hospitality where indulgence, vitality, sustainability, and community coexist — proving restaurants can drive cultural and systemic change. This woman is doing the work, and you can feel it.

Johanna’s personal story also really moved me. As a chef, entrepreneur and mother, Johanna shares parts of her life that shaped the way she sees health, intuition, and what it means to truly take care of yourself in a world that can feel overwhelming and confusing. It’s a powerful reminder of how much we’re capable of when we start to question, listen, and trust ourselves more deeply.

Many of us are aware of how to avoid toxins in and around our food at home, but I’ll admit eating out was more of a blind spot for me. We get into the hidden plastic crisis lurking in restaurant kitchens, the truth about what's really in your pasta and why it hits so differently in Europe, the seed oil conversation with actual nuance, food waste, and so. much. more. Johanna shares practical swaps you can make today in your own kitchen to reduce your toxic load — no overwhelm, just empowered steps forward.

We really covered it all! I left this conversation feeling inspired, grounded, and confident that our bodies are incredibly intelligent — and when we start to listen, everything begins to shift.

Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :

🍝 [0:00] Growing Up Organic in Italy Before It Was a Movement

👶 [11:53] Covid at 36 Weeks Pregnant and a 92 Hour Birth

🏥 [14:12] Neglected After a C-Section and Nobody Would Listen

🧬 [16:43] Her Son's Compromised Immune System and What Doctors Missed

💊 [19:20] Antibiotics Before 12 Months and a Kawasaki Disease Diagnosis at Five

🌾 [23:00] 90 to 95% of Cancer Is Lifestyle — Not Genetics

🍳 [32:00] The Cookware Swap That Protects Your Family From Toxins

🥡 [36:40] Ditch the Tupperware — The Storage Containers Worth Switching To

🌍 [40:20] 12 Minutes From a Food Desert — How Alma Gives Back

🍽️ [43:29] Why Health Shouldn't Be a Luxury and What a Real Neighborhood Restaurant Looks Like

LINKS

Ama Restaurant’s website: https://www.amarestaurant.bar/press

Johanna on Instagram @chefjohannahellrigl

EWG website: https://www.ewg.org/

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What if the story you’ve been told about your diagnosis… isn’t the only one available to you?

In this uplifting episode, I sit down with Mark Ruegg, a Stage IV pancreatic cancer thriver whose awe-inspiring journey reinforced what I know is possible when it comes to healing. I first heard about Mark after two different people told me I had to hear his story — and after listening for myself, I had to have him on the podcast. Incredibly, he credits the HEAL Documentary for inspiring a sense of hope and possibility after his diagnosis. It brings me so much JOY to know the film continues to inspire this community to take your healing and transformation into your own hands!

After being told his cancer was inoperable and incurable, Mark found himself standing between two very different worlds—one rooted in fear, prognosis, and limitation… and another rooted in possibility, belief, and the body’s capacity to heal. What he chose changed everything. 

We talk about the moment he came across the HEAL Documentary — and how that experience, along with others who had walked this path before him, helped him borrow belief when he didn’t yet have it on his own.

This conversation explores the deeper layers of healing that often go unspoken — how fear can live beneath the surface even when life looks “good”… why belief may be the foundation everything else rests on… and how learning to get quiet, listen inward, and regulate the nervous system can open the door to guidance you didn’t know was available.

Mark shares the shifts he made across every area of his life — from the way he moved his body, to how he nourished it, to the way he thought, felt, and related to his diagnosis. We explore the power of community, environment, and emotional energy — and why healing isn’t just physical, but deeply mental, emotional, and spiritual.

This conversation isn’t about denying reality — it’s about expanding it. It’s about what can happen when you stop outsourcing your power… and start actively participating in your healing.

If you or someone you love is navigating a diagnosis — or simply searching for a new way to approach health, resilience, and life — this episode will open your mind to what might be possible.

Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :

💔 [0:00] Stage Four Pancreatic Cancer and a 4 to 6 Month Prognosis

🎬 [5:40] How Watching Heal Changed Everything

❤️ [8:39] Why He Chose to Love His Cancer Instead of Fight It

🤫 [10:13] The Message He Got While Praying: Talk Less Listen More

✨ [30:50] Clear Scans by Round Two of Chemo

👼 [33:12] He Put His Parents on Side Effect Duty — and Had None

🗣️ [36:19] The Mantra He Said Every Day No Matter How Bad He Felt

🌀 [42:56] The Strength Is in the Surrender

💡 [45:37] Getting Thrown Into the Dark Room — and Finding the Light

🧬 [52:10] Cancer Didn't Just Heal Him — It Rebuilt His Entire Body

LINKS

Mark Ruegg on Substack

Mark on Instagram @markallenruegg

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