In this episode of the Healed to Lead Podcast, Kevin sits down with Dr. Awa Jangha to break down what to do when someone you love is struggling with depression—and you’re not a counselor. We talk about real-world support that helps (and what accidentally harms), the language that lowers shame, and how to show up without overstepping.Dr. Jangha unpacks signs beyond “sadness,” the ways symptoms can look different in men vs. women, and how culture and community shape what we notice, what we hide, and when we ask for help.We also get practical: what to say (and avoid saying), how to offer help without taking over, and small daily actions that actually move the needle. Whether you’re a leader, partner, parent, or friend, this conversation is a reminder that healing is possible—and you can show up powerfully even if you’re not a therapist.Check out her book, Mental Health Basics for Spiritual and Religious Leaders, here: https://ssw.edu/dr-awa-jangha-releases-book-mental-health-basics-for-spiritual-and-religious-leaders/