How should neurofeedback fit into trauma treatment? Should clinicians focus on processing traumatic memories, improving nervous system regulation, or both? And how do we balance excitement about promising clinical outcomes with our ethical responsibility to present treatments realistically?

In this episode, Dr. Saul Rosenthal talks with psychologist Dr. Dedalus Hyde, founder of Pacific Neurofeedback and the Bay Area Trauma Center, as part of our 2026 NRBS Conference interview series.

Drawing on more than 40 years of clinical experience, Dedalus discusses how neurofeedback has changed his understanding of trauma, why he believes regulation and psychotherapy often work best together, and how clinicians can remain both enthusiastic and ethically grounded when introducing emerging treatments.

We also explore clinical decision-making, the importance of research and mentorship, and where he believes neurofeedback is headed over the next two decades.

This interview previews the 2026 Northeast Region Biofeedback Society Annual Conference, held virtually September 26–27. Learn more at nrbs.org. NRBS 2026 Conference before the early-bird deadline and use code NRBS26INVITE for an additional 10% discount.

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A Quick Programming Update

Thanks for listening to Healthy Brain Happy Body!

Our Creativity Series is not over. We're just taking a brief pause.

The NRBS Annual Conference is September 26th and 27th. Over the next several weeks, I'll be releasing conversations with many of this year's presenters. The conference features presentations on topics including artificial intelligence in neurofeedback, HRV biofeedback, ethics, compassion, resilience, nature and health, and the future of applied psychophysiology.

Whether you’re a clinician, researcher, student, or simply curious about the science of the brain-body connection, I think you’ll find these interviews engaging.

Then, beginning in October, we’ll return to Phase Two of the Creativity Series, with conversations featuring comedians, musicians, performers, and other creative people exploring what creativity actually feels like from the inside.

Find out more about NRBS Annual Conference and consider attending virtually!

Early Bird Registration Discount until August 15, 2026

Use this code for a FURTHER 10% Discount: NRBS26INVITE

Thanks again for listening and for being part of the Healthy Brain Happy Body community. I’ll see you next week with our first conference interview, and then we’ll return to the Creativity Series in October.

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What do elite athletes, military personnel, and Fortune 100 executives have in common? How can heart rate variability help people perform under pressure? And what does the next generation of biofeedback look like?

In this episode, Dr. Saul Rosenthal talks with Dr. Jay Wiles, licensed clinical and performance psychologist and Chief Health and Performance Officer at Ohm Health. Jay recently presented an NRBS webinar, discussing his work with high performers, the psychology behind elite performance, and how biofeedback can move beyond simply measuring physiology to actively improving self-regulation.

The conversation explores several emerging topics in applied psychophysiology, including the stability of resonance frequency breathing, the use of HRV coefficient of variation (HRV-CV) as a marker of autonomic nervous system stability, and the strengths and limitations of consumer wearables. Jay also describes the thinking behind the new Ohm biofeedback device and shares practical advice for clinicians who want to improve patient adherence to biofeedback training.

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Most clinicians think of slow-paced breathing when they think of heart rate variability (HRV) biofeedback. But what if breathing isn’t always the best tool?

In this episode, Saul Rosenthal talks with Dr. Fred Shaffer delving deeper into the tips for HRV training he describes in his NRBS webinar.

Fred explains how slow-paced muscle contraction can improve HRV, discusses the situations in which it may be helpful, and shares some surprising findings from his laboratory. The conversation also explores broader questions about HRV training, including what we know, and still need to learn, about resonance frequency, why some clients struggle with paced breathing, and how clinicians can avoid becoming overly focused on physiological metrics.

Along the way, Fred offers a reminder that applies far beyond HRV training: use HRV as a compass, not a scoreboard.

Topics include:

• Slow-paced muscle contraction as an alternative to slow breathing
• When breathing-based HRV training may not be appropriate
• Resonance frequency and the unanswered questions in HRV science
• Common challenges in HRV biofeedback training
• Measuring outcomes that matter to clients
• Why clinicians should master the skills they teach

Dr. Fred Shaffer is Professor Emeritus of Psychology at Truman State University, former president of the Biofeedback Certification International Alliance (BCIA), and one of the field’s leading educators in biofeedback and psychophysiology.

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Over the past several months, the Healthy Brain Happy Body Creativity Series has explored creativity through conversations with neuroscientists, musicians, performers, artists, clinicians, and researchers. While these guests came from very different backgrounds, many described remarkably similar experiences: flow, absorption, uncertainty, connection, vulnerability, and the feeling of entering a different state of mind.

In this special synthesis episode, Dr. Saul Rosenthal steps back from the individual interviews to examine the themes that emerged across the series. Drawing on conversations with Rex Jung, Alice Flaherty, Simone Lucchini, Barbara Minton, Mari Swingle, Danielle Pinals, Penijean Gracefire, Kimaya Lakamwasam, and others, he explores the idea that creativity may be less a talent that some people possess and more a state that human beings can enter.

Topics include:

• Flow states and altered states of consciousness
• Creativity as an embodied experience
• Improvisation, uncertainty, and flexibility
• Emotional expression and psychological safety
• Creativity, connection, and world-building
• The role of boredom, mind-wandering, and downtime
• How overload, distraction, and exhaustion interfere with creativity
• What creativity can teach us about being human

This episode also serves as a transition between the science-focused portion of the Creativity Series and upcoming conversations with artists, performers, writers, comedians, and other creative professionals about their lived experiences of creativity.

Guests featured in this episode include:

• Rex Jung, PhD
• Alice Flaherty, MD
• Simone Lucchini, PhD
• Barbara Minton, MA
• Mari Swingle, PhD
• Danielle Pinals, LICSW
• Penijean Gracefire, LMHC
• Kimaya Lakamwasam

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In the second part of this conversation, Dr. Mari Swingle and Dr. Saul Rosenthal turn to one of the defining questions of modern life:

What happens to creativity in a world dominated by screens?

Drawing from her research on excessive technology use and “interactive screen addiction,” Dr. Swingle explains how digital media can “piggyback and hijack” the same brain systems involved in creativity and artistic flow.

Topics include:

• How screen use impacts alpha activity and attention
• The difference between creative flow and technological “hijacking”
• Why boredom and “blank space” are essential for creativity
• Technology, algorithms, and the attention economy
• Creativity versus consumption
• Gaming, social media, and the loss of creative drive
• Artificial intelligence, art, and human originality
• Supporting creativity in children and adults
• Why creative expression matters for human well-being

Throughout the episode, Dr. Swingle offers both caution and hope, emphasizing the importance of preserving space for human imagination, experimentation, and emotional expression in an increasingly technology-saturated culture.

This episode is a thoughtful exploration of creativity not just as artistic production, but as a deeply human process worth protecting.

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Dr. Mari Swingle joins Healthy Brain Happy Body for the first of a two-part conversation on creativity, neurophysiology, and the brain states that support artistic expression.

Known for her pioneering work on technology addiction and brain health, Dr. Swingle also has a lifelong background in the arts as a painter and singer. In this episode, she explores creativity not simply as talent, but as a unique brain state involving alpha activity, visualization, emotional processing, and what she describes as the “muse” or “fugue” state.

Dr. Swingle and host Dr. Saul Rosenthal discuss:

• The neurophysiology of creativity and artistic flow
• Alpha brainwave activity and creative states
• The relationship between emotion and artistic expression
• Creativity, pattern recognition, and visualization
• The “tortured artist” stereotype and mood regulation
• Creative blocks and neurotherapy approaches
• How composers, writers, and artists experience flow states
• The balance between peak creative performance and mental health

The conversation also explores the fascinating overlap between creativity, emotional intensity, and altered states of attention, raising important questions about how clinicians can support creative individuals without disrupting the processes that make creativity possible.

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In Part 2 of this conversation, Dr. Saul Rosenthal and Penijean Gracefire continue their exploration of creativity through the lens of neuroscience, neurofeedback, and human adaptation.

The discussion expands into questions about peak performance, executive function, aging, artistic identity, and the role of neurotechnology in enhancing creativity. Penijean explains why she considers the executive control network central to creative functioning and argues that flexibility—not perfection—is one of the defining features of a healthy creative brain.

The episode also explores the use of biometrics as part of the creative process itself, including collaborations using EEG-driven sound and light environments.

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🧠 In This Episode

Creativity and Executive Function:

• Why executive networks may be central to creativity
• Cognitive bandwidth, processing speed, and adaptability
• The relationship between stress, exhaustion, and creative capacity

Does Emotional Distress Fuel Creativity?

• The complicated relationship between suffering and artistic production
• Whether reducing distress changes creative drive
• Creativity across different life stages and developmental periods

Neurofeedback and Peak Performance:

• Can neurofeedback enhance creativity?
• Differences between simple and highly customized interventions
• Working with performers, athletes, and individuals with creative “blocks”

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In this episode of Healthy Brain Happy Body, Dr. Saul Rosenthal continues the podcast’s creativity series with neurotechnology designer and neural frequency analyst Penijean Gracefire.

Penijean explores creativity not as a single talent or trait, but as a process of “world-building.” The brain attempts to organize experience, construct meaning, and communicate internal reality to others. Drawing from her work with musicians, artists, athletes, and clinical clients, she discusses how differences in perception, attention, and neural connectivity shape the many forms creativity can take.

The conversation also examines why highly creative people often experience challenges with emotional regulation, sensitivity, or social connection—and how these same traits may contribute to artistic expression.

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🧠 In This Episode, Penijean discusses:

• Why therapy itself as a creative act
• The challenge of communicating subjective experience
• How clinicians and artists both construct internal models of reality
• Why both “overly connected” and “overly differentiated” brains can produce remarkable creative work
• Her work with musician Dessa, who sought help processing the emotional impact of a long-term relationship while continuing to perform music connected to those experiences.

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This episode's guide is David Ims, who just presented a webinar to the NRBS about concussion management with the XLNTBrain system. Concussions are common, often underdiagnosed, and notoriously difficult to assess. The conversation explores the limits of symptom reporting, the role of cognitive testing, and how adding neurophysiological data like QEEG may help clinicians and patients make more informed decisions.

1. Why concussions are frequently missed or underestimated
2. The importance—and limitations—of baseline testing
3. How symptom tracking can reveal recovery patterns over time
4. Whether more data actually improves clinical decisions
5. The role of QEEG in validating patient experience
6. Why concussion recovery is often inconsistent and nonlinear
7. Balancing standardized tools with individual variability

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