This is a REPLAY of Ep. 37 from Feb. 16th, 2021



What is the Mission of the church? Do you know? Or better yet, are you doing it?

On last weeks podcast we discussed the WHY of a healthy church - Core Values. This week we’re talking about the WHAT which is Mission!

Many of our churches have “rehearsed” the service elements of the church and most would say they are “on mission”, but the big question is, are disciples being made? Are people being saved, baptized, and taught the things Jesus taught His disciples (Matt. 28:19-20). Are people growing in their Christ-likeness or are they just attending church?

A healthy church will be focused more on being faithful to Jesus’ mission of making disciples than just being faithful to our traditions and religious activity. 

If we can help you as you seek to be on mission, please let us know!

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THIS IS A REPLAY of Ep. 36 from Feb. 9th, 2021.


Whether a new church plant or established church, they all need core values to help direct them to become the church God wants them to be. On this episode of HCP, Larry and Drew discuss why core values are so important to church health.  Core values can give your church a common language and specific identity towards the church you believe God wants you to become.

If you need some resources to help you in the process of choosing your core values, listen to this podcast and email us at [email protected] for free resources to help move you in the direction of Healthy Church Values.

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REPLAY from Ep. 35 - Feb. 2, 2021

Every healthy church has a clear understanding about what they value, their mission, vision and strategy to be effective.  On today's podcast, Larry and Drew discuss the intro for a series of upcoming podcasts breaking each of these things down to help churches successfully plan towards health and actually live each of these imperatives out.

• Values - The WHY - you do what you do.
• Mission -  The WHAT - we're supposed to be doing.
• Vision - The WHERE - we're going.
• Strategy - The HOW - map of how to get there.

- We need congregational buy in on these ideas for growth.
- We need to align pastoral values with congregational values.
- We need to be careful to not COPY another church - be unique, contextualize.

The next 4 podcasts will break these down for deeper discussion over the next several weeks.

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HCP - Ep. 85 - Prayer Resources and Retreats

On this episode of HCP, Larry and Drew welcome Pastors Advocate Heidi Sorrells to the podcast to talk about prayer. They discuss our need for intentional times of prayer where we come before the Lord in humility to seek HIS plan and will for our ministry over our own. Healthy Church Solutions also has many resources at your disposal for no cost to you (info below). They also mentioned prayer retreats coming up in the next few weeks that are available to pastors who want to be involved.

For any of the resources mentioned in the podcast, or for help for your ministry please contact us at [email protected] 

Other resources:

https://www.amazon.com/Simply-Prayer-Joining-Rest-Your/dp/0983116865

https://www.yourjourneyresources.com/category-s/12.htm 21 Days of Prayer Resources 

 For free Prayer System Trainings or more info on how to have your own prayer retreat, contact Heidi at [email protected]. You are also invited to attend a free overnight prayer retreat near you. Reach out if interested! 

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HCP - Ep. 84 - Counseling In the Church with (Guest Adam Thomas)

On this episode of the HCP, Drew welcomes guest Pastor and Counselor Adam Thomas. Adam is the Preaching/Teaching Pastor at Wyatt Road Baptist Church in El Dorado, AR and is also a Biblical counselor. The conversation today is around the role of pastor as a counselor for his people in the church, the role of the body as they care for one another, “Bearing one another’s burdens, etc..”, and if there is ever a time to go outside of the purview of care in the church.

Every person is different with different mental, emotional, and spiritual needs so please know this conversation is one based on experience and interpretation of scripture. If we can help you in this conversation, please contact us at [email protected]. 

Many pastors in the public spotlight have fallen recently either in suicide or moral failure and Adam and Drew discuss how to avoid those things though awareness and honest relationships. 

 There is a need for pastors to own the responsibility to care for the souls of their people through counseling and connecting them to people in the body of the church where they can process life struggles and disappointments. Perhaps we need to better our understanding of how to counsel and helping create a culture in our churches where people can be honest about what they’re struggling with and working through.

Links to help on this topic:

https://biblicalcounseling.com/

https://www.biblicalcounselingcoalition.org/

https://newgrowthpress.com/

https://www.prpbooks.com/series/resources-for-changing-lives

https://www.faithlafayette.org/counseling

Association of Certified Biblical Counselors

biblicalcounseling.com

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HCP - Ep. 83 - Greenhouse Leadership Development

On this episode, Larry and Drew discuss the Leadership “pipeline”. Are we as church leaders investing our time and experience into other leaders?  To invest time or resources or anything at all requires sacrifice. Jesus fed the 5,000, but the little boy with the loaves and fish offered his lunch. For at least a moment, he had no lunch for the hope of what Jesus would do.  What are you sacrificing right now with the hope that Jesus would do something in your context?

Values discussed on the show are:

Contemplation - I know what I value by what I Think about.

Conversation - I know what I value by what I Talk about.

Calendar - I know what I value by how I spend my Time.

Checkbook - I know what I value by how I spend my Treasure.

Some of these concepts have been adapted from Dave Reynolds with the Alliance Church.

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HCP - Ep. 82 - Worship Pastor Roles and Relationship with Guest (Travis Sellers)

On this episode of HCP, Larry and Drew talk with Worship Pastor Travis Sellers from Antioch Baptist Church in Conway, AR about his ministry, roles and responsibilities but also about the relationship between Senior Pastors and Worship pastors. Often the dynamic between the two can be contentious and stressful, but Travis says our pride is often the reason for strained communication or relationship between roles.

Travis has served in the ministry of worship for 26 years and offers a load wisdom and ideas for other leaders in church ministry no matter your discipline or title. 

Travis has also offered to HCP some of his rules to live by as a worship pastor

TRAVIS SELLERS 10 Rules to Lead by as WORSHIP PASTOR:

Don’t go around him
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The phrase “it’s better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission” should never enter your mind when thinking about your pastor. It’s always, always, always better to ask for his permission. Always.

Don’t go against him
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Your pastor needs your support, your help, and your encouragement. If you disagree with him, then have a conversation with him and ask him questions. He’d be much happier having a conversation and answering your questions/concerns, then dealing with your flat-out opposition.

Don’t surprise him

Don’t be high-maintenance

 -Your pastor has enough high-maintence people in his congregation. Don’t join their ranks. Do your job well, faithfully, humbly, and trustworthily, and your pastor will love you. 

Don’t go outside your parameters

 - Step 1: Ask and learn what your parameters are. Step 2: Stay inside those parameters. That’s your safety zone, and the protection of your pastor might not extend outside of that zone.

Initiate things inside those parameters

 Step 3: Be an initiator. If you know your parameters, and you know where you have your pastor’s support, then just get on with initiating stuff. He’ll be delighted to see you taking charge and will be grateful for your energy.

Help him preach his message (Don’t preach it for him)

 Take the time to find out what he’s preaching on, and do your best to support the preaching of the Word by what songs you pick. A worship leader who ignores his pastor will most likely be ignored by their pastor.

Be Excellent

 He shouldn’t have to jump hurdles due to your unpreparedness to get to the throne.

Run your ministry in such a way that gets people involved

 Your pastor hears from people all the time who aren’t happy because they “can’t get plugged in”. Plug people in. Have them to your house. Have worship team dinners. Build community. It’s good for the church, and it’s good for the pastor to see you getting people involved. He’ll be grateful.

Pray for him- 

 A worship leader who prays for his/her pastor is a worship leader who wants the best for his/her church. A church is best served by unified leadership. So, pursue unity with your pastor, and pursue it prayerfully, and your worship leadership will be all the more effective.

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HCP - Ep. 81 - Making Today Count!

It’s the new year and we’re ready to get going! But sometimes that’s not the case. Sometimes we believe lies, get depressed, struggle with the task ahead of us. It’s ok - you’re human! We want to remind you that the writer of Lamentations says that God’s mercy is NEW EVERY MORNING. So embrace His goodness, His mercy and the opportunity the day brings and let’s make today count. 

On this episode of HCP, Larry and Drew discuss some ideas to shake off the funk of 2021 and to “seize the day”! 

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HCP - Ep. 80 - Year End Life and Ministry Evaluation

It’s that time of year where we reflect on the previous year and consider the one coming up. It’s good in ministry to do the same thing, whether it’s something you do as an individual or as a team on a church staff or leadership team. Many churches today are either declining (85%), reclining, or inclining in our growth. Which are you? On this episode of HCP Larry and Drew discuss these ideas and some questions to ask to take an honest look at where you are personally as well as in ministry.

If you were to see your church or ministry assignment in one of the 7 churches in Rev. 2-3, which one would it be? What kind of report card would you get from the “Chief Shepherd” Jesus?

It’s good to take an honest look at this time of year and begin to seek the Lord for what steps we need to take to follow Him into this next season of life and ministry.

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HCP - Ep. 79 - You Don’t Have What It Takes - But God Does

On this HCP episode Larry  and Drew discuss the mistake many pastors make in working out of our strengths and gifting over resting in and pursuing God’s presence and power in our lives. Often our default is to rely on our abilities and experience but is that what people need to experience - more of you? No, we’re called to first and foremost, rest in the grace and provision of God. “He doesn’t call the equipped, He equips the called”. God will of course use your giftings, He’s the One who gave them to you, but not at the expense of your understanding and relying on God’s presence and power.

At some point in ministry you will “run out of gas”, in your proverbial tank of ability. At that moment, the Spirit of God reminds you that this has never been about you and how amazing you are. As David defeats Goliath (because of God’s power), as Mary gives birth and parents the Holy Son of God (by God’s grace). Even Paul mentions in Phil. 3 the need to lessen the importance of accolades and prideful qualifications over knowing Christ.

May the people God has given us to care for see His love and mercy in our lives of dependance upon Him. May they see His strength in our weakness.

Find hope in knowing that even though YOU DON’T have what it takes to do the ministry effectively, He DOES - He’s all you’ve ever needed. May we humble ourselves and be filled with His abiding presence. 

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!

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