In this heartfelt episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn talks with author Cheri Warcholak Lohrey about living with multiple sclerosis and the grief that can accompany a chronic health diagnosis.

Cheri was living a full, busy life as an educator, wife, mother, fitness enthusiast, and someone who loved a packed calendar and taking care of things on her own. Her MS diagnosis changed the path she had imagined for herself.

But the diagnosis brought more than physical challenges. Cheri describes grieving the loss of her career, independence, familiar routines, and the identity she had built over the years.

For nearly a decade, she kept much of her experience to herself, often responding to questions with, “I’m fine,” while carrying much more beneath the surface. Eventually, she had to confront what was happening and learn to navigate life differently.

In this conversation, Cheri and Dawn explore:

* The grief that can accompany a chronic illness diagnosis

* Losing a career and a sense of identity

* What it means to look fine on the outside while struggling internally

* Learning to slow down and make space for self-care

* The difficulty of asking for help when you’ve always been independent

* Why community and support matter during difficult transitions

* How writing became part of Cheri’s healing journey

* Finding creativity and unexpected joy after a major life change

* Reframing difficult experiences and looking for what they can teach us

Cheri’s message throughout the episode is simple and powerful:

Pause. Breathe. Pivot.

Sometimes life doesn’t follow the plan we created. That doesn’t mean there can’t be meaning, connection, creativity, and joy in the next chapter.

If you’re navigating chronic illness, grief, or a life that looks very different than you expected, this conversation is for you.

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Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Cheri

Cheri Warcholak Lohrey, a type A planner, a fitness enthusiast, and a career woman, a suburban wife, mother, daughter, sister, and friend, was living her life to the fullest when suddenly everything changed. Receiving a tumultuous diagnosis, her life plan was upended. With over 25 years of service as an educator, Cheri’s determination to “Never Give Up” perseveres as she navigates the unexpected challenges of multiple sclerosis progression, illuminating the power of resilience.

Cheri is the international bestselling author of Powered by the Pivot; Secrets Revealed in my journey Manifesting Peace, Love & Gratitude; and the 2026 International Impact Award-winning author of Cleo the Caterpillar CAN Pivot: A Story of Decision-making and “I AM Cleo: A Story of Courage.”

Her picture books are rhythmically told, inspiring growth in the young and the old. Her mission, both in life and through her writing, is raw, real, and relatable, featuring her personal strategy to Pause, Breathe, and Pivot.

Invited on her journey, readers will be inspired to embrace change, feel supported through real-life moments of decision-making, and ease the heaviness of illness. Her messages will strengthen self-confidence, reveal secrets that are often unseen, and empower readers to reframe challenges and consider a perspective shift.

Additionally, I AM Cleo debuts Cheri’s illustrations, depicting an intimate look at her personal and symbolic journey through life’s pivots.

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What would it take to keep moving forward when loss seems to come faster than you can process it?

In this deeply personal episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn sits down with Boise Thomas, an actor, artist, author, yogi, world traveler, and Grief Recovery Method® Specialist.

Boise opens up about an extraordinary season of loss in which he lost 13 people, including his mother, in just eight months, as well as his home, community, security, and beloved cat. Rather than simply moving on, Boise began exploring what it meant to actually heal the grief he was carrying.

He shares how asking for help changed the direction of his life, how the Grief Recovery Method® helped him heal his emotional heart, and how walking the Camino de Santiago became an unexpected part of his healing journey.

In this episode:

• Why asking for help can be an important part of healing

• Boise’s experience with the Grief Recovery Method®

• Powerful miracles while walking the Camino de Santiago

• Staying connected to loved ones after death

• Finding hope after profound loss

• Creating new chapters after painful experiences

• Continually becoming and reinventing yourself

If you’re carrying grief or navigating a difficult transition, we hope this conversation reminds you that healing is possible and that meaningful chapters still lie ahead.

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Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Boise

Boise Thomas is an Actor, Artist, Minister, 2x Author, and Grief Recovery Specialist.

After 30 years of seeing all his dreams come true on stages and screens in Hollywood, a death wave (13 losses in 8 months) followed by the January 2025 fires forced him to leave California.

His new beginning and reset now find him traveling around the world while getting his master’s & doctorate in Metaphysics, publishing a second book, and working online with grievers.

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What does the passing of Dolly Parton have in common with transitioning to an empty nest?

At first, they may seem like two completely unrelated experiences. But both can bring up powerful emotions and unexpected feelings of loss.

In this episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn and Janna explore the many things we can grieve throughout our lives, including losses we may not expect to affect us so deeply.

The conversation begins with the recent loss of Dolly Parton and why so many people can feel genuine sadness when a beloved celebrity dies, even when they never knew that person personally.

Dawn and Janna then turn to another significant transition: children growing up and leaving home. Even when we’re proud of our children and excited for their next chapter, their departure can bring sadness, a loss of purpose, and a very different kind of emptiness.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

* Why we can feel genuine loss when a beloved celebrity dies

* How the people who touch our hearts become part of our lives

* Why one loss can bring other memories and unresolved emotions to the surface

* The complicated emotions that come with children leaving home

* Why empty nest grief can include both sadness and excitement

* The importance of giving ourselves space to process emotions

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Learn more about Dawn

Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Janna

Janna Wellemeyer is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist who brings compassion and understanding from her own healing journey.

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Why do we reach for food when we’re stressed, overwhelmed, grieving, or emotionally uncomfortable?

In this episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn talks with Kate Johnston, a former physician assistant and eating habits and weight loss coach, as they explore how emotions, grief, and stress can influence our eating habits.

Together, they explore why healthcare professionals and other people in demanding careers often learn to suppress or compartmentalize difficult emotions.

You’ll hear about:

* Why we often use food to comfort ourselves when we’re uncomfortable

* The connection between grief, stress, and emotional eating

* How suppressing emotions can affect our lives in ways we don’t expect

* Why awareness is an important first step in changing eating habits

* How our thoughts can intensify the emotions we’re experiencing

* Learning to sit with uncomfortable emotions instead of immediately trying to escape them

* Why feeling difficult emotions can actually help us experience joy more fully

* The importance of compassion instead of shame when changing our relationship with food

* Why you really can learn to handle hard emotions, even if no one taught you how

This is a conversation about something many of us experience but rarely talk about: what happens when we don’t know what to do with our emotions.

If you’ve ever eaten for comfort, pushed your feelings aside, or wondered why you keep turning to food when you’re not physically hungry, this conversation may give you a new way to understand what’s really happening beneath the surface.

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Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

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Kate Johnston helps women in demanding careers break free from unhealthy eating habits and build habits that support the life and body they love, through her private coaching program, Lighter, her group coaching program, Lighter Together, and her podcast, Eating Habits for Life.

As a former Physician Assistant-turned-Eating Habits and Weight Loss Coach who used to emotionally eat, she understands how a demanding career, thoughts, and emotions affect why, what, and how much you eat.

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What happens when keeping busy becomes a way of avoiding what we’re feeling?

In this episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn and Jana talk about the tendency to fill every moment with doing instead of slowing down long enough to feel, process, and simply be.

Together, they explore:

Why we often keep busy when we’re experiencing grief, pain, or difficult emotions

How staying constantly busy can prevent us from processing what we’re feeling

Why slowing down and creating space for ourselves can feel so uncomfortable

The connection between emotional avoidance, overwhelm, and burnout

Why rest and quiet aren’t signs of weakness or selfishness

How making yourself a priority can actually help you be more present for the people you love

Simple ways to create more breathing room in your day

What we might discover when we finally stop long enough to ask, “What am I avoiding?”

Why giving ourselves permission to pause can be an important part of healing and finding our way back to joy

The episode ends with an invitation to look at your own calendar, priorities, and emotional needs, and to consider where you might make a little more room for yourself.

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Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Dawn

Janna Wellemeyer is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist who brings compassion and understanding from her own healing journey.

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What happens when you grow up learning how to be emotionally honest?

In this heartfelt conversation, Dawn talks with Bradley Owens, her stepson, about what it was like to grow up with the communication tools and principles of the Grief Recovery Method.

Bradley shares how learning to acknowledge emotions, communicate honestly, and process painful events has shaped who he is today.

Rather than learning these tools later in life, Bradley grew up with them. He reflects on how they influenced his relationship with his dad, his friendships, and romantic relationships

He also shares what he believes young men, and really, all of us, need to understand about emotional honesty, slowing down, and giving ourselves permission to feel.

In this episode, we talk about:

* What it’s like to grow up with tools for emotional honesty

* Learning to talk about emotions instead of keeping them inside

* The impact of emotional honesty on communication

* How we can learn to create space for others to be emotionally honest

* Why it’s okay to slow down and take a breath

* What emotional honesty can teach us about strength

This conversation offers a beautiful glimpse into what can happen when emotional honesty becomes something we learn, not just something we discover after experiencing years of pain.

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About Your Hosts:

Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Dawn

Bradley Owens grew up learning the principles and tools of Grief Recovery and became the youngest Grief Recovery Method® Specialist in the world. After recently graduating from high school, where he spent four years in the JROTC program, he’s now joining the Air Force to pursue a career in Security Forces.

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We’ve all heard the phrase, “It just takes time.” But what if time alone isn’t what heals a hurting heart?

In this episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn and Janna explore one of the most common myths about grief… Time heals all wounds.

Through personal stories of miscarriage, stillbirth, abusive relationships, divorce, and other painful life experiences, they share why emotional pain often remains long after the years have passed.

Together they discuss why unresolved grief can quietly shape our relationships, identity, and every aspect of our lives until we intentionally choose healing.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

* Why time alone doesn’t heal grief or emotional pain

* How unresolved grief can affect relationships

* Why taking action, not simply waiting, is essential for emotional healing

* How grief can become part of our identity without us realizing it

* Practical encouragement to begin taking your first steps toward healing

Whether you’re grieving the death of someone you love, the end of a relationship, miscarriage, divorce, childhood hurts, or another life transition, this conversation reminds you that you don’t have to stay stuck.

Healing isn’t about forgetting; it’s about learning how to carry your experiences without letting them define your life.

Remember: Healing doesn’t happen simply because time passes. Healing happens when we choose to take compassionate steps toward our hearts.

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About Your Hosts:

Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Dawn

Janna Wellemeyer is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist who brings compassion and understanding from her own healing journey.

Learn more about Janna

You never have to navigate your healing journey alone. 💕

If you’re looking for support, please schedule a call with me!

I’m always here to offer heart-to-heart human support for life’s most difficult moments.

How much of what happens in your relationships is really about the present and how much is coming from the past?

In this week’s episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn Jackson and her husband, Ed Owens, Vice President of the Grief Recovery Institute, share the deeply personal story of how healing unresolved grief and emotional pain transformed their relationship.

Both Dawn and Ed entered their relationship carrying losses, heartbreak, and emotional wounds they hadn’t fully healed. They openly discuss the struggles they faced, the patterns they repeated, and how learning to heal their hearts changed the way they communicate, connect, and love each other.

Together, they explore:

* How unresolved grief shows up in relationships

* Why emotional triggers often have roots in the past

* The connection between healing yourself and creating healthier relationships

* How curiosity, ownership, and honest communication strengthen connection

* Why replacing a relationship doesn’t heal the pain from the last one

* The difference between compromise and collaboration

* How healing benefits every relationship, not just romantic ones

Whether you’re navigating marriage, dating, family relationships, friendships, or simply wanting to understand yourself better, this conversation is one you won’t want to miss!

Healing doesn’t just change your heart; it changes the way you show up for the people you love.

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Subscribe to Heart Healing Conversations and join us for honest conversations about grief, healing, and finding joy again after heartbreak and loss. ❤️‍🩹

About Your Hosts:

Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Dawn

Ed Owens served in the U.S. Air Force, retiring as a First Sergeant in 2009, while also working in law enforcement for many years. Following the devastating loss of his three-year-old son in 2010, Ed discovered the Grief Recovery Institute and found a path toward healing. Today, he serves as a trainer and Vice President of the organization, helping others navigate their own journeys through grief and emotional loss.

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You never have to navigate your healing journey alone. 💕

If you’re looking for support, please schedule a call with me!

I’m always here to offer heart-to-heart human support for life’s most difficult moments.

We often tell ourselves, “I’m fine.” We compare our pain to someone else’s, push our feelings aside, and convince ourselves to keep moving. But what is the cost of minimizing our grief and emotions?

In this episode of Heart Healing Conversations, Dawn shares a deeply personal reflection inspired by the wildfire threatening her community and the emotional toll of living with uncertainty.

As a former nurse, she also explores why so many of us, especially caregivers, healthcare professionals, first responders, military members, and anyone who has lived through difficult experiences, learn to suppress our emotions.

The problem is that emotions we don’t process linger inside of us and often resurface as stress, burnout, anxiety, overwhelm, difficulties in our relationships, and a lack of overall joy.

In this heart-centered conversation, you’ll discover:

* Why we minimize grief and difficult emotions.

* How suppressing emotions affects our mind, body, and relationships.

* The hidden weight of unresolved grief and emotional pain.

* Why comparing your pain to someone else’s keeps you stuck.

* How emotional honesty creates space for healing, peace, and joy.

* A simple reminder that your feelings matter and so do you.

Whether you’re grieving a loved one, navigating a life transition, caring for others, or simply feeling emotionally exhausted, this episode offers gentle encouragement to stop minimizing your experience and begin honoring your heart.

About Your Host

Dawn Michele Jackson, RN, is an Advanced Grief Recovery Method® Specialist, author, and advocate for emotional healing. After more than 30 years in nursing, Dawn helps individuals release unresolved grief and emotional pain so they can reconnect with themselves, their relationships, and what matters most.

Learn more about Dawn

Subscribe to Heart Healing Conversations and join us for honest conversations about grief, healing, and finding joy again after heartbreak and loss.

You never have to navigate your healing journey alone. 💕

If you’re looking for support, please schedule a call with me!

I’m always here to offer heart-to-heart human support for life’s most difficult moments.