Domestic violence isn’t always physical abuse; sometimes, it’s a terrifying display of coercive control that ends in a fatal crash. Today, we bridge the gap between toxic relationship dynamics and the link between suicidality and homicidality. We look at how Mackenzie Shirilla’s case fits into a broader pattern of 'if I can’t have it, nobody can' mentality. We also weigh in on the national debate sparked by The Crash: how do we teach our children the value of life when they seem convinced they are above the consequences of taking it? This is a deep dive into the intersection of adolescent impulsivity, forensic evidence, and the lack of parental accountability. 

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.