From seemingly devout believers to family annihilation, the Lori Vallow Daybell story is a chilling tale of fanaticism and destruction. We trace the timeline of their descent into doomsday cult behavior, the tragic deaths of Lori's children, and the disturbing actions of the couple after the murders. We also discuss why doomsday predictions that do not come to pass, do not change the minds of the cult members.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Hi Forensic Friends! In today's episode we discuss the latest media and podcast antics of everyone's (least) favorite butthead, Armie Hammer. What's he saying? Has he really changed?  Has he done the work? And even if he has, do we really want to hear from him ever again? Also, a quick update on the Karen Read case

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

The story of Karen Read and the death of John O’Keefe is captivating the nation. Our episode focuses on what we do best, intimate partner violence including their interactions leading up to his death, analysis of the trial and approaches by opposing counsel, and ultimately how the media circus makes it unlikely John O’Keefe’s killer will be brought to justice.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Join us for a quick but important update on the Moscow, Idaho murders. We analyze the recently revealed text messages from the surviving roommates, offering new insights into that harrowing night. Plus, we touch on the death penalty discussion and give you a sneak peek at the intriguing cases you can expect in April.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

The seemingly perfect online image of the 8 Passengers family crumbled as the truth emerged. In Part 2, we uncover the full extent of the manipulation and control exerted by Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. We examine the devastating impact on the family, a father's failure to step up or step in, and the bravery of the children who fought so hard to survive and escape.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Have you ever noticed that some people can navigate feedback better or are more open than others? Self-awareness, vulnerability, and connection are important facets of a successful life. Learn more about Johari Window in this educational episode!

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

This is the kind of parenting that gives therapists like us job security for life. Part 1 of our Ruby Franke investigation takes us behind the scenes of her seemingly perfect online persona. We explore the early dynamics of her relationship, the reported signs of narcissism, and the subtle cues that hinted at deeper problems within the family. We also discuss the lack of intervention from her husband, and the obvious discomfort of the children on camera. This is the beginning of a disturbing story, so buckle up. And don't forget to check out our midweek mini on social learning theory and why extreme punishments toward your kids are ineffective and self-defeating.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Is spanking really the answer? This week, we dive deep into the research debunking the effectiveness of corporal punishment, exploring why it not only falls short but actively harms children. We unpack the troubling link between physical discipline and intergenerational violence, revealing how these practices can perpetuate cycles of trauma and pain.

If you're ready to break the cycle of physical discipline and create a more positive, nurturing environment for your children, this episode is for you. Join us as we explore the power of whole-brain parenting and discover how to build a stronger, more connected family.

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

In the quiet suburbs of Channelview, Texas, a shocking plot unfolded beneath the bright lights of Friday night football. Wanda Holloway, a seemingly devoted mother and cheerleader booster, became infamous for attempting to hire a hitman to eliminate the mother of her daughter's rival. But what drove a woman to such extreme measures? This week, we delve into the twisted mind of Wanda Holloway, exploring the intense pressure cooker of competitive cheerleading, the potential impact of mental health struggles, and the devastating ripple effects her actions had on everyone involved. We’ll examine the evidence, the psychological profiles, and the societal pressures that may have contributed to this bizarre and chilling murder-for-hire plot. Was Wanda a calculated criminal, or a woman pushed to the brink? Join us as we unravel the layers of this disturbing case, and ask: how far would you go for your child's success?

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

Welcome back forensic friends! In today's mini episode, we welcome back our special guests: the handy, helpful, handsome husbands! Listen in as we discuss the love languages and how they show up, our own styles, and debate the scientific validity vs usefulness of the framework. 

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Disclaimer: Jeannine and Natalie are commentators on publicly sourced information. Any case information and opinions are based on records in the public domain and are purely speculative in nature. Their comments are not meant to diagnose or treat any condition for listeners, and they are not functioning as licensed therapists providing services on the show. Any information shared based on general client experiences is coincidental and not meant to identify current or past clients. If you or someone you love is having a mental health crisis, please contact 911 or the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.