How might we get back to normal? Many experts say it won't happen until we get a vaccine, which is still quite some time away, others say something like herd immunity could also get us back. But it seems that without working in conjunction with a vaccine, herd immunity won't save us either. There are a number of unknown variables that need to be factored in, such as, how long we have immunity for after recovering from COVID-19 and to meet the threshold without a vaccine it could also mean more deaths. Kaleigh Rogers, reporter at FiveThirtyEight.com, joins us for how we get to herd immunity.

Next, some companies are getting rid of  hazard pay for essential workers even as the dangers of working on the front lines persists. As businesses were shutting down, many companies offered bonuses or pay bumps to compensate people for the risk of working at supermarkets and other crowded workplaces, but that is no longer the case. Kroger is walking back a $2 raises to employees, Target and Amazon are following suit later this month. Anders Melin, reporter at Bloomberg News, joins us for why hero pay is going away.

Finally, as we begin the cautious approach to get back to work at the office, just know that your every move will be watched. At some workplaces, thermal cameras will measure body temperatures of people walking in, at others, apps will trace workers interactions in the office. Workers could also be divided into groups based on perceived health risks. A concern for many is that once these extra measures are put in place, they many never go away, even after fears of the virus subside. Konrad Putzier, reporter at the WSJ, joins us for how employers plan on tracking you when you come back.

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