Are AI workers easier to manage than humans? Bradley sits down with Evan Ratliff, creator of the award-winning podcast series, Shell Game, to talk about the real startup he launched with a staff of AI employees. They discuss the economic, psychological, and regulatory stakes of AI, plus the creepy comedy of working with bots. “Every time I went in to say, ‘Stop talking about this,’” Ratliff says, “it triggered them to talk about it more. They can create endless busy work—endless process—for no real value.”

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