Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Real Talk for IT Pros & MSPs)

Hidden Costs of Changing Your Stack (EP 996)

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I’ve been talking for years about having a stack that works and not jumping every time a shiny new tool comes along, but I’ve never really unpacked how I got there. In this conversation, Tom Wyant from Wyant Technologies joins me to walk through the real‑world impact of switching RMMs, PSAs, documentation tools, security platforms, and even client portals and payment systems. We dig into migrations that looked good on paper but turned into months of cleanup, retraining clients on new portals and payment workflows, and what it actually costs when a tech spends two to three hours a day fixing issues instead of working tickets or projects.

Why Listen

  • Understand why switching your RMM/PSA stack can easily cost a smaller MSP tens of thousands of dollars once you factor in labor, cleanup, and confusion.
  • Hear a real‑world breakdown of migrations from LabTech to Continuum to Ninja, from ConnectWise to Halo PSA, and from IT Glue to Hudu, including what actually hurt and what paid off.
  • Learn practical questions to ask vendors about data ownership, export paths, and how your history, documentation, and tickets will (or won’t) move over.
  • See how client‑facing changes like portals, payment processors, remote access tools, and security awareness training can disrupt users and generate extra support load.

    • Chapters

    • 00:41 Conference Season Insights
    • 03:07 Housekeeping and Personal Experiences
    • 04:13 Horror Stories of Changing Stacks
    • 08:15 Reasons for Changing Tools
    • 11:32 Data Ownership and Documentation
    • 15:25 Client Facing Disruption
    • 17:35 The High Cost of Switching
    • 20:17 Hidden Costs of Cheap Tools
    • 29:22 All-in-One Solutions Considered
    • 32:48 Evaluating New Tools and Integrations
    • 39:15 Reflections on Past Experiences
    • 40:13 Summary of Hidden Costs
    • 47:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

      • Guest: Tom Wyant, Wyant Technologies: 

      • Website: https://www.gowyant.com/
      • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaswyant

        • Shout-outs

        • Arnie Bellini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arniebellini/
        • David Bellin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bellinidavid/

          • Companies / Vendors / Products Mentioned

          • MSP Vendor Lock-In: Switching Costs Hit $325K: https://linkly.link/2hhSA
          • N‑able: https://www.n-able.com
          • ConnectWise: https://www.connectwise.com
          • Halo / HaloPSA: https://www.halopsa.com
          • Ninja / NinjaOne: https://www.ninjaone.com
          • IT Glue: https://www.itglue.com
          • Hudu: https://hudu.com
          • CloudRadial: https://www.cloudradial.com
          • Benji Pays: https://www.benjipays.com
          • Defendify: https://www.defendify.com
          • CyberFOX (AutoElevate): https://www.cyberfox.com
          • Huntress: https://www.huntress.com
          • Synchro (SyncroMSP): https://syncromsp.com
          • SuperOps: https://superops.ai
          • Kaseya: https://www.kaseya.com
          • Datto: https://www.datto.com
          • Microsoft 365: https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365
          • SonicWall: https://www.sonicwall.com
          • Nagios: https://www.nagios.org
          • Narmada: https://narmada.cloud
          • R-Hub (remote access / meeting appliance):https://www.rhubcom.com

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