A Nigerian journalist, Hauwa Yusuf, and student, Abigail Olaley, discuss their arrival and making a life in the UK. Marvina Babs-Apata says that she didn’t know she was black until she arrived in Britain 17 years ago. She was surprised to find that she was defined by her colour and that her new London classmates believed she had lived in a mud hut in her native Nigeria. In the fourth of a series of conversations between different generations of women who have created new lives for themselves in the UK, Marvina chats with 50 year old Hausa journalist Hauwa Yusuf and 21 year old student Abigail Olaley.