Paul calls up Uncle Mud to pointedly not discuss rocket heaters, but instead talk about more traditional wood burners, the drawbacks of low-and-slow burning overnight, airflow and intakes, thermal mass, and the Scandinavian origins of non-rocket mass heaters.

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Paul and Samantha continue discussing bootcamp, going over how he’s changed it since going to Portland, and how it compares to the WWoOF programme. Paul believes that bootcamp would be a good fit for many people that didn’t quite get along with WWoOf but liked the idea.

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Paul and Samantha sit down to discuss Paul’s visit to a bunch of potlucks in Portland, and how the local over-abundance of pears on the ground comes back to bootcamp and how it tries to not only grow food, but turn people into gardeners. And how it doesn’t charge rent so you’re actually free to benefit the community.

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Brock’s consultation continues with Paul further detailing hugelkultur use and use of paddocks to raise chickens while keeping them away from human food, and that Brock should focus on roughly a quarter acre of his land at a time and make it awesome before moving to the next.

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Brock has foolishly sent money to Paul for a consultation on his 2-acre Minnesotan property with a bunch of ash trees for the inevitable hugelkultur recommendations, a persistent department-of-making-you-sad, and a goal of feeding a family of 5 on hopefully more than sunchokes and walking onions.

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Paul has wandered off to Spokane to meet up with Nicholas Thomas to have a potluck, and we get to have a potluck of pod topics! Including, but not limited to, natural control of pest (mainly earwig) populations, appropriate lawn care (build hugelkulture) and discovering new landmarks.

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Paul and Stephen continue talking about their aspirations for bootcamp and Wheaton Labs, such as seeing a dozen people living at bootcamp all year and learning how to manage their own homestead, before moving onto half-assed holidays, more on sunchokes, and a some more on bootcamp culture.

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Paul and Stephen sit down to talk about their aspirations for Basecamp and the Labs, covering how much better the soil is after years of care, the dozens of rockety gizmos around the place, and some basics for new boots, such as letting themselves take a break instead of sprinting to keep up with the veterans.

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Paul and Samantha continue discussing the differences between Paul’s and Mark Shepherd’s methods before moving on to willow feeders, sewage treatment at Wheaton Labs and in general, and how using greywater safe soaps help even in an apartment.

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Paul talks with Samantha about the effect of his health on progress, the pitfalls of hiring people, soap company’s questionable marketing, a comparison between his and Mark Shepherd’s gardening, and a bit on a consultee’s over-farmed property (less growing of commercial alfalfa, more hugelkultur).

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