Hot Mics with Billy Bush

What does J.P. Miller’s interview reveal when it’s analyzed by a man who trains law enforcement officers how to conduct evidence-based interviews?

Stan Walters — known as “The Lie Guy” — joins Billy Bush to break down NewsNation investigative journalist Rich McHugh’s extraordinary interview with J.P. Miller, the husband of Mica Miller and a central figure in Netflix’s Death of the Pastor’s Wife.

Walters approaches the interview differently. Rather than relying on body language or claiming he can simply “spot a lie,” he examines the reliability of what J.P. actually says: the details he provides, the details he doesn’t, how he describes his marriage to Mica, his repeated focus on himself, and whether his account could be reconstructed and tested against evidence.

Stan’s first major observation? Gaslighting.

“He is the greatest gaslighter I’ve ever seen,” Walters tells Billy.

Together, Billy and Stan examine J.P.’s claim that he and Mica had an almost “perfect” marriage, his description of Mica’s mental health, his response when asked what he would have done differently, and his striking announcement to his congregation following Mica’s death.

They also examine what Stan considers one of the most important parts of any investigative interview: the subject’s ability to recall and explain critical moments. Why does J.P. appear unable to provide certain details surrounding the moment he learned Mica was dead? What should investigators look for when evaluating statements like these? And how do investigators work backward from forensic evidence rather than allowing behavior or appearances to determine their conclusions?

Walters also explains why body language is an unreliable method of detecting deception — and why, as he puts it, “we can hear the truth better than we can see deception.”

Mica Miller’s death was officially ruled a suicide. J.P. Miller has not been charged in connection with her death. The allegations concerning abuse and coercive control discussed in this episode remain allegations, and Walters makes clear that his analysis is not a determination that J.P. committed a crime.

Watch as “The Lie Guy” puts one of the most talked-about interviews in the Mica Miller case under the microscope.

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Lindsay Clancy's attorney Kevin "Big Red" Reddington lashes out at irresponsible accusations from the media. As the Lindsay Clancy jury struggles to reach a verdict, Billy Bush is joined by Karen Goldberg, a courtroom observer who has traveled three hours each way to attend the trial — and whose deeply personal connection to mental illness and postpartum psychosis explains why this case means so much to her. Goldberg became recognizable to viewers as the woman seated behind Brittany Romano — the so-called “girl in the green dress” — and found herself facing online criticism after cameras captured a brief smile inside the courtroom. But there is much more to her story. Karen is a mother of eight with a family history deeply affected by mental illness. Her father experienced a psychotic break when she was young, and in 2005, one of Karen’s friends died by suicide just 13 days after giving birth following postpartum psychosis. That experience never left her. Karen explains why she originally planned to attend the Lindsay Clancy trial for only a day or two — and how an unexpected encounter with Lindsay’s parents changed her mind and convinced her to return to the courtroom throughout the trial. Billy and Karen discuss the intense reaction to spectators caught smiling on camera, what it is actually like inside the Plymouth County courtroom, and why brief moments captured by television cameras may not tell the full story about the people sitting in the gallery. Karen also shares her firsthand impressions of Kevin Reddington, the defense attorney who has become a larger-than-life figure during the trial, and explains what she has observed about his relationship with Lindsay Clancy and her supporters. Then Karen gives Billy her read on the jury. She describes the jurors’ reactions during testimony, moments that appeared to visibly affect them, and what she witnessed as the jury reported that it had been unable to reach a decision and was sent back to continue deliberating. With the possibility of a hung jury growing, the conversation returns to the question at the center of this case: How should the criminal justice system confront severe mental illness and postpartum psychosis while never losing sight of the three children whose deaths brought everyone into this courtroom? This is an eyewitness perspective from inside one of the most closely watched trials in the country — and the personal story behind one woman who felt she had to be there. Subscribe to Hot Mics with Billy Bush for continuing coverage of the Lindsay Clancy trial and the verdict. #LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #KevinReddington #KarenGoldberg #BillyBush #HotMics #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #CourtTV #MentalHealth Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@HotMicswithBillyBush?sub_confirmation=1 You can listen live exclusively on TuneIn Monday through Thursday 9am PT / 12pm ET. Ask your Alexa or Google device to "Play Hot Mics with Billy Bush on TuneIn" to listen.

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Netflix’s The Death of the Pastor’s Wife has put the Mica Miller case back in the national spotlight. Now investigative journalist Rich McHugh, one of the key journalists featured in the documentary, joins Billy Bush to reveal what he learned while investigating J.P. Miller — including what happened when he finally sat down with the controversial pastor face-to-face.

McHugh began investigating Mica’s death in 2024, speaking with her family while simultaneously communicating directly with J.P. Miller. After months of trying, McHugh eventually convinced Miller to sit for an extensive interview.

What followed was unlike anything McHugh says he had experienced in thousands of interviews.

Billy and Rich examine the allegations of coercive control, stalking, emotional and sexual abuse, religious manipulation and surveillance that surrounded Mica’s marriage and her attempts to leave it. They also discuss Mica’s mental-health treatment, her efforts to regain control of her life, and the videos she made documenting what she said she was experiencing.

Then there are the unanswered questions surrounding Mica’s death.

McHugh retraced Mica’s final movements to Lumber River State Park and explains why certain details still trouble him — including the location of Mica’s body in relation to her belongings and questions he believes deserved greater scrutiny.

Billy also plays portions of McHugh’s remarkable interview with J.P. Miller, including Miller’s description of his marriage and his answer when asked whether there was anything he would have done differently.

McHugh explains what those answers revealed to him and discusses an email in which he says Miller addressed some of the conduct Mica had accused him of.

The conversation also turns to the federal criminal case against J.P. Miller. Miller was indicted in December 2025 on cyberstalking and false-statement charges and pleaded not guilty. His federal case has since faced repeated delays.

Importantly, J.P. Miller has not been charged in connection with Mica Miller’s death.

Why did Mica’s story resonate with so many people? Could her case change how the law addresses coercive control? And after everything Rich McHugh uncovered, what questions does he believe still need answers?

Rich McHugh joins Billy Bush for an in-depth look inside the Mica Miller story, the investigation, his extraordinary interview with J.P. Miller, and the case that continues to raise questions two years later.

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The legal battle over Amy Griffin’s bestselling memoir The Tell is escalating, and the latest discovery fight could force some of the book’s biggest unanswered questions into the open.

Billy Bush breaks down the dueling lawsuits involving Griffin and Jolene Altum, formerly known publicly as Jane Doe, who alleges that elements of the childhood trauma described in The Tell originated with her own experiences.

Now Altum’s attorneys are seeking a significant amount of material from Griffin — including the identity of “Real Claudia,” the mysterious postcard described in the book, manuscript drafts and revisions, communications with ghostwriter Sam Lansky, investigative materials, the original book proposal, MDMA therapy-related records, financial information involving psychedelic-therapy companies, and potential NDAs involving people connected to Griffin’s story.

Griffin, meanwhile, is pursuing discovery of her own and seeking depositions from several people connected to Altum’s claims, including New York Times journalists who investigated the story.

Billy also examines Griffin’s request for ex parte protective relief and the growing fight over what information should remain confidential, what should be disclosed, and which identities should remain protected.

At the heart of it all is a question we’ve been following from the beginning: Who is the real Claudia — and why has her identity become such a fiercely contested part of this case?

With major discovery hearings approaching and settlement appearing increasingly unlikely, the battle over The Tell may be moving closer to the documents, witnesses and evidence that could finally test the competing versions of this extraordinary story.

Hot Mics with Billy Bush continues its investigation into Amy Griffin, Jolene Altum and The Tell.

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Attorney and legal analyst Melanie Little joins Billy Bush as the jury deliberates in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial — and she believes defense attorney Kevin Reddington has successfully established reasonable doubt.

Melanie breaks down the central question now facing the jury: Did the Commonwealth prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Lindsay Clancy was criminally responsible when she killed her three children?

Billy and Melanie examine the evidence surrounding postpartum psychosis and mental illness, Clancy’s extensive psychiatric treatment, her repeated attempts to get help, the role of telehealth, and whether doctors and the mental-health system failed to recognize the seriousness of her condition.

They also revisit some of the trial’s lingering questions, including the untested powder found in a drink container, prescription bottles, Patrick Clancy’s role, and investigative decisions Melanie believes left important questions unanswered.

Then Melanie raises one of her biggest questions about the prosecution’s case: Lindsay Clancy’s interviews with the Commonwealth’s psychiatric experts were videotaped and ultimately made available to the jury — so why did prosecutors apparently never play any of those recordings in open court?

Could seeing Lindsay speak for herself during those evaluations affect how jurors assess her credibility and mental state?

Melanie also takes Billy inside the colorful career and courtroom style of Kevin Reddington, whose closing argument and aggressive cross-examinations became defining moments of the trial.

With the case now in the jury’s hands, Melanie makes her prediction and explains why she believes a finding of not criminally responsible remains possible — but a deeply divided jury could also produce a hung jury.

The arguments are over. Now 12 jurors decide the fate of Lindsay Clancy.

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As the jury deliberates in the Lindsay Clancy trial, Boston Globe health and science reporter Sarah Rahal joins Billy Bush to examine one of the biggest issues to emerge from the case: Lindsay Clancy’s extraordinary psychiatric treatment and medication history.

Rahal breaks down the timeline showing approximately 30 prescriptions involving 13 different medications in roughly four months, spread across multiple doctors and treatment settings. Who was coordinating Lindsay’s care? What role did telehealth and fragmented medical records play? And after repeated attempts to get help, were warning signs missed?

Billy and Sarah also examine what the jury appears to be focusing on during deliberations, evidence the jury has seen that the public has not, and whether the case ends with a murder conviction, a finding that Lindsay was not criminally responsible — or a hung jury.

Then Billy turns to Netflix’s The Death of the Pastor’s Wife and the disturbing story of Mica Miller and her husband, Pastor J.P. Miller. Billy reacts to the allegations explored in the series, Miller’s controversial announcement of Mica’s death to his congregation, the questions that continue to surround the case, and the federal charges J.P. Miller now faces.

Plus, new insight into how certain antidepressants could potentially affect someone with bipolar disorder, and why the Lindsay Clancy case could have consequences for the way postpartum mental-health crises are recognized and treated.

Hot Mics with Billy Bush continues to follow the Lindsay Clancy verdict and the biggest legal, true-crime and cultural stories making headlines.

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Alan Jackson joins Billy Bush as the Lindsay Clancy case goes to the jury.

Moments after closing arguments concluded, the famed Karen Read defense attorney breaks down the prosecution and defense cases — and explains why he believes the Commonwealth has not met its burden of proof.

Jackson analyzes Kevin Reddington’s emotional closing argument, Jennifer Sprague’s case for premeditation, the battle between the psychiatric experts, and the central issue the jury must now decide: whether Lindsay Clancy was legally responsible for killing her three children or was in the grip of a psychotic break.

Jackson also explains how experienced trial lawyers speak directly to individual jurors during closing arguments, why Reddington’s courtroom style may have connected so effectively, and why the failures of the mental-health system became part of the case whether prosecutors wanted them to or not.

Billy and Alan also discuss Reddington’s connection to the Karen Read case, problems Jackson sees with Massachusetts investigations, Karen Read’s continuing legal battles, and Jackson’s upcoming defense of Fraser Bohm.

Now the arguments are over.

The jury is deliberating — and Alan Jackson makes his call.

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With closing arguments underway in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, Billy asks Dr. Drew the question now facing the jury: Was Lindsay criminally responsible for killing her three children, or was she experiencing a temporary psychotic episode that left her unable to understand the wrongfulness of what she was doing?

Dr. Drew draws on more than 30 years working in a psychiatric hospital and says the postpartum psychosis cases he encountered were among the most severely psychotic patients he ever treated. He explains the phenomenon of “altruistic filicide,” the critical difference between medical and legal definitions of insanity, and why Lindsay’s reported 18-to-20-minute window of psychosis strikes him as unusual.

The conversation then turns to Lindsay’s treatment.

Dr. Drew examines her complicated medication history, the role of telehealth, the possibility of medication-related symptoms and what he sees as a fundamental problem with American medicine: the disappearance of a primary-care “quarterback” capable of coordinating a patient’s treatment across multiple doctors, hospitals and prescriptions.

Billy and Dr. Drew also debate what justice should look like for Lindsay and whether this case could become a catalyst for a much larger examination of postpartum psychosis, maternal mental health and psychiatric care in America.

Then, the conversation turns to the sudden death of Hayden Panettiere at 36.

Billy, who knew and interviewed Hayden throughout his years in entertainment television, asks Dr. Drew to examine her history through the lens of addiction: postpartum depression, alcohol and substance abuse, treatment and relapse, the loss of custody of her daughter, and her tumultuous relationship with Brian Hickerson.

Dr. Drew explains why medical treatment and relationships can become two enormous relapse risks for someone in recovery and discusses why addiction requires sustained treatment rather than a short-term trip to rehab.

The discussion expands to two other famous men and their very different experiences with sobriety: Charlie Sheen, now eight years sober, and Brad Pitt, who has recently spoken publicly about drinking again. Dr. Drew explains why he considers addiction a progressive disease and why someone who has achieved years of sobriety may still face enormous risk by attempting to drink again.

Finally, Billy asks Dr. Drew what parents should be watching for in their own children — from pornography and social-media addiction to increasingly potent marijuana products and the mental-health consequences he says physicians are seeing.

A candid, provocative conversation about mental illness, addiction, responsibility, recovery and the medical system with one of the most recognizable addiction specialists in America.

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Following the death of Dolly Parton at age 80, Billy sits down for a deeply personal conversation with Dr. John Grossman, the legendary plastic surgeon who worked with Dolly for decades — and, more importantly, became her close friend over a relationship spanning nearly 50 years.

Grossman first met Dolly when she was in her 30s. What began as a doctor-patient relationship developed into a friendship that gave him a rare glimpse of the woman behind one of the most recognizable personalities in entertainment.

And according to Grossman, the Dolly Parton the world fell in love with was exactly who she really was.

He remembers her extraordinary sense of humor, humility, honesty and Southern hospitality. He recalls visiting Dolly at her Beverly Hills home, where she would insist on making him coffee, and describes a woman who never behaved like a celebrity despite becoming one of the biggest stars in the world.

Grossman also shares a remarkable story from 1995. Before discussing their doctor-patient relationship and cosmetic procedures in her book, Dolly made a special appointment with him for one reason: to ask his permission to use his name.

After decades of treating famous patients, Grossman says no other celebrity had ever extended him that courtesy.

The conversation also explores Dolly's fiercely protected privacy, her devotion to her husband of nearly 60 years, Carl Dean, and why Grossman continues to protect the confidential medical information entrusted to him during their decades together.

Billy and Grossman reflect on Dolly's journey from a poor childhood in Tennessee to becoming the best-selling female country artist of all time — and why her death feels like the loss of something much bigger than a music legend.

For Grossman, there simply aren't enough superlatives to describe the woman he knew.

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The Lindsay Clancy trial is nearing closing arguments, but a controversy outside the testimony has suddenly become one of the biggest stories surrounding the courtroom.

Billy Bush addresses the firestorm involving freelance journalist Brittany Romano, who was captured by the courtroom camera smiling and winking during the proceedings. After the brief clip spread online, Romano faced intense criticism and disturbing threats — while Vanity Fair announced it would no longer move forward with a potential essay from her and revoked her credentials.

What many people reacting to the video didn't know: Romano grew up near Lindsay Clancy, knew the Musgrove family and has her own deeply personal connection to mental health.

Billy reads Romano’s powerful response and explains why her experience with public shaming hits particularly close to home.

Then, Kevin Reddington prepares for his final cross-examination as the prosecution calls its last rebuttal witness in the Lindsay Clancy case.

Billy examines what may be one of Reddington’s most important arguments: if memories created during psychosis can be unreliable, can prosecutors rely upon Lindsay’s own recollections and alleged admissions about the deaths of her children?

The prosecution’s Dr. Gregory Sadoff presents a formidable counterargument, challenging Lindsay’s account of the command hallucination she says told her to kill her children and herself. Sadoff points to inconsistencies, timing and the specific actions Lindsay allegedly took as evidence that she remained in control.

With testimony ending and closing arguments next, the central question remains: Was Lindsay Clancy criminally responsible, or was she suffering from postpartum psychosis?

Also today, new developments surrounding Hayden Panettiere and Brian Hickerson. Hayden’s representative responds publicly to speculation surrounding her death as Hot Mics continues pursuing questions about activity reported at Hayden’s Los Angeles residence after she died. Harry updates Billy on his attempts to get information to law enforcement and the public-records requests seeking additional records involving Hayden and Hickerson.

And Billy remembers Dolly Parton, reflecting on her music, career, marriage and extraordinary impact on American culture.

Hot Mics with Billy Bush — covering the trials, crime, entertainment and culture stories driving the conversation.

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